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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 123« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Capt. Cecil E. Talbert)

Mr. Hubert.
marking upon a report of an interview which you had with Special Agents Bramblett and Logan of the FBI, on December 12, the following: "Dallas, Tex., March 24, 1964, Exhibit 5069, deposition of Capt. C. E. Talbert," under which I am signing my name. Now, that document consists of eight pages, and I am marking the seven other pages with my initials on the lower right- hand corner, on each of the pages. Now, Captain, I ask you if you have had a chance
to study and to read these various documents?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Let the record note, by the way, that Exhibit 5070, is the tour of the basement which has been previously identified and signed. In a moment I am going to ask you to identify and endorse your signature or initials below my signature or initials on each one of these pages of the various documents. In other words--in order to separate them, I direct your attention now to Exhibit 5065, being the FBI report of November 24, 1963. As to each one of these documents, I want to ask you this: Does that document correctly represent the truth and facts such as you know them? Has anything been deleted? Has anything been omitted? Do any facts stated need any modification or change of any sort whatsoever?
Captain TALBERT. You want me to read them again; do you, sir?
Mr. Hubert.
Just enough to identify them. You have already studied them.
Captain TALBERT. The first document marked--
Mr. Hubert.
5065?
Captain TALBERT. 5065. In the last three and a half lines reading: "He said the press and other news agencies had set up for Oswald's transfer from the city jail to the county jail, and that day he did not feel the police department would want to cross the news agencies," and if those were my words it wouldn't be it is probably a matter of semantics. Probably a matter of our conversation with the sheriff--after he conversed with me, I had a interview, a brief conversation with Newsom concerning the fact that chief would contact him upon returning to city hall, and I do not recall that. I don't recall that. I don't refute it. I just don't recall it. Shall I initial it?
Mr. Hubert.
Please. If you will please sign your name under it. I understand, therefore, that you have no recollection of having said that you doubted that they were changing the plans because of any fear that they might have of crossing the press?
Captain TALBERT. Sure, it would be improper, and the even an inference of a statement like that sort would be improper for a police captain to make, and those are not my words.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you think you expressed any idea of the same nature, but in other words?
Captain TALBERT. Perhaps the time lapse, I can't recall, but, as I say, it may be a matter of semantics, and the way he understood it and what I had said. As I recall my conversation with him, it was rather difficult to get him back to the phone. I went through two or three people to get him to the phone, and as I recall about the conversation, it was rather brief and to the point, that I had contacted the chief and the chief would contact him when he got to the office, which would be between 8:30 and 9.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you remember discussing any possible change of plans at all with him?
Captain TALBERT. None. I discussed no change of plans with Mr. Newsom.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you discuss the possibility of a change of plans in the light of the new
Captain TALBERT. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you recall mentioning, in any way, the concept, the basic concept of that sentence, that is, that the press would be considered whatsoever in the thinking about those plans for the transfer ?
Captain TALBERT. In conversing with the sheriff, and our conversation either from the sheriff or from me, and I think probably from the sheriff, the subject arose that the chief had told the press that they could arrive at the city hall at 10 o'clock, or thereabouts, the previous day. and that was with Sheriff Decker. Not with Mr. Newsom, as I recall it. Now, I have several months have passed since and my memory becomes vague on it, so, must have been--possibly maybe
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