Mr. Griffin.

Do you know who he was?
Chief BATCHELOR. No; I didn't pay any attention to who he was. It was a uniformed man standing over there. I later learned this was a reserve that was over there, but I didn't pay any attention.

Mr. Griffin.

The uniformed man was a reserve officer?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Who did you later learn that from?
Chief BATCHELOR. In the course of the investigation later.

Mr. Griffin.

I see. Some days after Oswald was shot?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now after going over near the elevator where the uniformed reserve officer was, what did you do next?
Chief BATCHELOR. Well, we went back upstairs. And Stevenson had gone at this time. We went down this first time to see the layout, and there wasn't too many here. We went back upstairs, and Chief Stevenson sent some detectives down, and brought his uniformed men in. I came down the last time, was just before the removal of the prisoner, and in the meantime I had contacted Mr. Fleming about the armored motor car.

Mr. Griffin.

You came down three times ?
Chief BATCHELOR. I went up once, and then Stevenson and I came down and looked this thing over, and then down with Curry, and then the last time.

Mr. Griffin.

On the first occasion when you were down there, you say you

saw this uniformed reserve officer. Did you later learn what his name was?
Chief BATCHELOR. I don't remember it. It is in the report.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you mark with an "X" on the map where that reserve officer was standing and the approximate time?
Chief BATCHELOR. (marking). He was standing over here.

Mr. Griffin.

Let the record indicate that he has marked it with a circle. This is again somewhere around 9:15 or 9:30?
Chief BATCHELOR. Somewhere along there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you learn in the course of your investigation his name?
Chief BATCHELOR. I don't recall his name.

Mr. Griffin.

Would that appear anywhere in the report, do you think?
Chief BATCHELOR. Not in that report. It would appear in the reports that were made by Captain Jones in the course of investigating who was where. You have a diagram similar to this with everybody marked on it, and he is on one of those.

Mr. Griffin.

Had he been stationed there by somebody ?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes; now I could be mistaken about the exact time I saw him there. That is, whether it was this trip or the trip before. I could be mistaken about it, but I do remember seeing him here when we came down.

Mr. Griffin.

Excuse me, do you want to mark the map then what the alternate time might be? You might write whatever time you think it was.
Chief BATCHELOR (marking). He was there before then, but I am talking about when I may have seen him there.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, Chief, after you left the basement area on this first trip, where did you go?
Chief BATCHELOR. We went back upstairs to the office.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Chief Stevenson go back up with you ?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

When you got back up on the third floor, were there news media personnel on the third floor?
Chief BATCHELOR. There were some up there.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it, it was not what you consider a crowded condition.
Chief BATCHELOR. No.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there television cameras still there?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

When you arrived at 8 o'clock in the morning, were there TV cameras up there?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Were the TV cameras manned at 8 o'clock in the morning?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes; the best I remember, they were.