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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 75« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of John Edward Pic Resumed)

Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever hear of Lee, other than this letter of Lee taking dancing lessons?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever hear otherwise of his taking dancing lessons than in this letter?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir.
Mr.. JENNER. Did either you or Robert ever take dancing lessons or voice lessons?
Mr. Pic.
I think when we were very small and Mr. Oswald was still alive we did, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, the other thing to which I referred, as you made reference to something about making payments on a car. What was that about?
Mr. Pic.
That would be in that second group, sir. In the second group is really the financial statements. Every one of them contained something pertaining to her finances.
Mr. Jenner.
The early enlistments of yourself and Robert and Lee--do you think that had anything to do with your mother's persistent references, allusions to finances?
Mr. Pic.
I did not enlist as fast as the other boys. I waited a year after I was of age. I am sure that prior to my enlistment, as a matter of fact, I knew she mentioned when I do get in I should make out an allotment to her and so forth.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you think there was an incentive on the part of Lee and Robert to enlist as soon as possible to get away from your mother?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir; I do.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you and your brother Robert have discussions on this subject?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir; we never discussed these things. It was just a feeling it was always around. We knew these things without discussing them.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you live in an atmosphere in which your mother directly or indirectly indicated to you that she thought she had been unfairly dealt with in her life?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
You had that very definite impression?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
You had--
Mr. Pic.
I did not have this impression. She related this to me, sir. I didn't feel she had it any tougher than a lot of people walking around.
Mr. Jenner.
That is what I am getting at, this was an impression she was seeking to create.
Mr. Pic.
That is right, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
You felt she did not have it any tougher. She was creating an impression that did not square with the facts?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir. Every time she met anyone she would remind them she was a widow with three children.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you have an opinion also as to whether this atmosphere in which Lee lived had an effect upon him and his personality?
Mr. Pic.
I am sure it did, sir. Also, Lee slept with my mother until I joined the service in 1950. This would make him approximately 10, well, almost 11 years old.
Mr. Jenner.
When you say slept with, you mean in the same bed?
Mr. Pic.
In the same bed, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
As far as you know or say when Lee came and stayed with you a short while in 1952 did he likewise sleep with your mother?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir; he did not.
Mr. Jenner.
He had reached a measure of independence by that time?
Mr. Pic.
Well, sir; when I left and went into the service there was a vacant bed in the house.
Mr. Jenner.
And at that time was that literally the first time that Lee had separate quarters for himself other than the period of time that Mr. Ekdahl lived with you and the period of time when your stepfather Lee Oswald was alive?
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