Mr. Jenner.

How did you become aware of that?

Mr. Pic.

He said he couldn't get a license, to me.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say why he couldn't get a license?

Mr. Pic.

He said it and give me the impression because of his citizenship status being he had a dishonorable discharge.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever see your brother Lee Harvey Oswald drive an automobile?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; never in my life.

Mr. Jenner.

While you boys were still in Fort Worth and before you enlisted in the Coast Guard in January 1950 had you--you had an automobile, didn't you?

Mr. Pic.

I drove the family car.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your brother Robert drive?

Mr. Pic.

He may have known how. He was not permitted to drive the family car.

Mr. Jenner.

I remember when I was a boy I wasn't permitted to drive the family car, in the broad sense.

Mr. Pic.

Right. He never swiped it.

Mr. Jenner.

I was permitted to drive it up and down the driveway or when my father was with me, I could drive it around the block or something like that the way kids do. Was Robert permitted to do that on a limited scale?

Mr. Pic.

I wouldn't remember that, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you own what we used to call in my day an old jalopy while you were still in Fort Worth? Mr. PIC. That picture of that automobile there was quite an old jalopy, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

That was before you enlisted?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your brother Robert ever drive that?

Mr. Pic.

To the best of my recollection, no, sir. In fact, I only drove it a few times myself. This is the picture with the dog.

Mr. Jenner.

That is the picture of the car in John Pic's Exhibit No. 55?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Lee never drove it, to your knowledge?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was your brother Robert interested in automobiles?

Mr. Pic.

All kids are interested in automobiles.

Mr. Jenner.

No; please was he interested in automobiles?

Mr. Pic.

Sure, he wanted to drive. He seen I was driving so he wanted to drive and he wasn't as old as I was, I was permitted to drive and he wasn't.

Mr. Jenner.

What about your brother Lee Harvey Oswald in that respect?

Mr. Pic.

I don't know if he ever was really interested at that age to drive a car or not, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anything said on the day, Thanksgiving Day 1962, to lead you to believe that he knew how to drive or operate an automobile?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

By the way, are you right handed?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Is your brother Lee right or left handed?

Mr. Pic.

I think he was right handed, sir. I think we were all right handed, Robert had tendencies toward the left hand and I think my mother made him change.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anything said during the course of that occasion when you saw him about his experiences in the Marines?

Mr. Pic.

There probably was, sir, but I don't remember what they referred to. I know he told me he was at Atsugo Naval Air Station. This I didn't know until he told me exactly where he was in Japan. I was familiar with the Atsugo area.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything about having been in the Philippines?

Mr. Pic.

Reading the magazine I now know that--

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything then?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; at that time I don't remember knowing that he had been in the Philippines.