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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 5« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of John Edward Pic)

Mr. Pic.
The marriage certificate of Edward John Pic, Jr., and Mrs. Marguerite Frances Claverie.
Mr. Jenner.
That is a marriage certificate that you, that is among your personal papers?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
I am going to put an exhibit number on it. We will take a photograph of it and return the original to you.
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Mr. Reporter, would you mark that as John Pic Exhibit No. 1. (John Pic Exhibit No. 1 was marked for identification.)
Mr. Jenner.
I offer in evidence as John Pic Exhibit No. 1, a marriage certificate certified and dated August 8, 1929, reflecting the marriage of Edward John Pic, Jr. and Miss Marguerite Frances Claverie on the 1st day of August 1929, in Harrison County, Miss. The marriage certificate does not show the town. Sergeant, do you have any recollection of your father?
Mr. Pic.
My own father?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Pic.
No, sir, I don't.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you have any recollection of ever having seen your father?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir; I don't.
Mr. Jenner.
You were too young at the .time but you eventually became aware of the fact that your mother, Marguerite, and your father, Edward, were divorced not long after your birth?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you become aware also of the fact that at the time of your birth that your father and mother were separated?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
This is the first information, I take it, then, in the utterance I have just made?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
That you have become aware that your mother and your father were separated at the time of your birth?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
You did learn about that?
Mr. Pic.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
From your mother?
Mr. Pic.
From Life magazine, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
I see. Well, that is what I was really getting at.
Mr. Pic.
O.K.
Mr. Jenner.
It was only in the last 6 or 8 months that you learned that at the time of your birth your mother and your father were separated?
Mr. Pic.
That is correct, sir. I had always been told that they were divorced because he didn't want children. I didn't know anything else but that. I didn't know the time periods or anything else, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Your stepfather, when your mother and your stepfather- I will call him Lee Oswald because all the witnesses have referred to him as Lee Oswald, is that what he was called, do you have any recollection of it?
Mr. Pic.
I remember him being referred to as Mr. Oswald, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Mr. Oswald?
Mr. Pic.
That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you have a recollection at the time, at least--that is an inelegant question. Do you recall your mother then marrying Lee Oswald or Mr. Oswald?
Mr. Pic.
I knew they were married, I don't recall the marriage ceremony.
Mr. Jenner.
What do you recall about him, sergeant?
Mr. Pic.
I recall he was an insurance salesman, sir, for the Metropolitan Life Insurance Co. He used to take me on his rounds for collections sometimes. He was very strict with us. We got whippings when we were bad.
Mr. Jenner.
You don't mean to claim that any of them was undeserved?
Mr. Pic.
No, sir. Not in the least.
Mr. Jenner.
I should say this to you, I think. The witnesses all, everybody spoke well of your stepfather.
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