Mr. Pic.

No, sir; when I asked about this she said everything was working out fine.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mr. Pic.

Whenever I would meet her it would be the same old song and dance, like hinting around I should help support her which I couldn't afford to do, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You had a wife and child by that time?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your compensation?

Mr. Pic.

For what, sir?

Mr. Jenner.

In the service at this time.

Mr. Pic.

I was petty officer, second class, I guess my base pay was maybe $190, plus extras, quarters allowances, maybe total $300 a month.

Mr. Jenner.

Was your wife still residing with your mother-in-law?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And were you contributing to the support of that whole family unit?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Mother-in-law, wife and child?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir; I was paying the rent and buying the groceries. In fact, that year I claimed my mother-in- law as a dependent on my income tax, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

By the way, you had claimed, did you, at some point in your service your mother as a dependent?

Mr. Pic.

In one of her letters she refers to that. I don't recollect that, sir. I think it was prior to my joining the service that she referred to. When I was working full time, maybe the year right after, I don't remember, sir, that incident at all.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mr. Pic.

Well, on these visits that I would spend with her downtown, we would eat lunch or something on Saturday. It got old after a while listening to her so I knew I was getting transferred to Virginia in September, 1953, so my wife left in August of 1953 to live with her sister until I was stationed there in September, 1953.

Mr. Jenner.

Where did her sister live?

Mr. Pic.

Norfolk, Va. And I was to be stationed at Portsmouth, Va., at the Naval hospital there for school purposes.
When I did finally get transferred from the ship to Portsmouth, Va., I did
not make known to my mother our whereabouts or our address.

Mr. Jenner.

Why not?

Mr. Pic.

Like I said, sir; it was getting kind of old. The only time I had seen her would be downtown and she didn't have much to say to me and I didn't have too much to say to her.

Mr. Jenner.

During this period of time there came about a substantially complete rupture then between yourself and your mother?

Mr. Pic.

To a certain degree.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see your brother at any time thereafter?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there an occasion in Thanksgiving 1962 when you saw him?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir; I can get to that. There are things happened prior to that.

Mr. Jenner.

You did see him--

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; I did not see him. I seen my mother.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. All right; go ahead.

Mr. Pic.

I returned from Portsmouth, Va., in April 1954, sir: and took up residency at 80 St. Marks Place, Staten Island, N.Y. We returned really to 325 East 92d Street, stayed there a matter of a couple of days until I found us a place to live in Staten Island and then my wife and I moved over to Staten Island leaving my mother-in-law in the apartment, being I felt because my wife had six brothers and sisters that they could worry about her. I didn't see that it was my responsibility much longer. My wife was the youngest child, and we lived there almost 2 years.
I was then assigned to the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Halfmoon, which is a weather vessel, and this is where I am in and out for 6-, 7-week periods at a