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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 356« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Orest Pena Resumed)

Mr. Liebeler.
[handing picture to witness]. I show you a picture which has been previously identified as "Garner Exhibit No. 1," and ask you if you recognize that man.
Mr. Pena.
Yes; that's Oswald.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you recognize him as the same man who was in the bar?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
[handing picture to witness]. I show you a picture that has been marked "Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C," and ask you if you can identify that man.
Mr. Pena.
Yes; that's Oswald.
Mr. Liebeler.
That's the same man who was in your bar?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you have any doubt in your mind that it was Oswald who was in your bar?
Mr. Pena.
He was there.
Mr. Liebeler.
He was there?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Am I correct in my understanding of your previous testimony that after you saw the picture of Oswald on television after the assassination, you, yourself, recognized that as the man that had been in the bar, even before Rodriguez mentioned it to you?
Mr. Pena.
Well, I seen it and I came down. I was talking about it, and I recognized him right away.
Mr. Liebeler.
Even before Rodriguez spoke to you about it, or was it after Rodriguez spoke to you about it?
Mr. Pena.
I was talking about it, and the man was in my place, you know. Then Rodriguez came over and said, "You remember that man who was drinking that lemonade?" Then my mind got clear. He just run from his house to my house to tell me about it.
Mr. Liebeler.
You had seen Oswald on television before Rodriguez told you about it and you thought you recognized him as having been in the place?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Then Rodriguez reminded you of the lemonade and then it became clear in your mind that Oswald was the man who had ordered the lemonade and had been in your place?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Rodriguez told the FBI that shortly after Oswald had been in the bar, after the lemonade incident, that he went to a doctor's office with you and this was just before you went to Puerto Rico and the Dominican public. Do you have any recollection of that?
Mr. Pena.
We went to a doctor's office?
Mr. Liebeler.
Yes. To be more specific, Rodriguez said that while he was riding back in the ear with you, he saw Bringuier in the street with some policemen. Do you know anything about that?
Mr. Pena.
Oh, yes. They got some kind of trouble. I went out. Yes. And they got some group, or two or three people was giving propaganda away, and Bringuier and one or two more guys went and started an argument with the guy who was giving the propaganda away in Canal Street. Then the police came down and they arrested him, Bringuier, and one or two more Cubans, and one more guy. I don't know the guy. I have seen him, but I don't know the guy. And they put them in jail in the first district, and they was calling Bringuier's brother-in-law. His name is--it is---
Mr. Liebeler.
Hernandez? Is that Celso Hernandez?
Mr. Pena.
No. They called me up there. I say, "Well--" so I went over there and put a bond, $25, so they can come out.
Mr. Liebeler.
You actually went to the police station and put up bond for Bringuier?
Mr. Pena.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
That was so that Bringuier could get out?
Mr. Pena.
Yes. One or two more guys.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember seeing the incident in the street as you drove by?
Mr. Pena.
No.
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