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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 333« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Dean Andrews, Jr. Adams)

Mr. Andrews.
wasn't there when Clay Bertrand called me, I am pretty sure, because he would have remembered it if I didn't.
Mr. Liebeler.
You discussed it and he doesn't, in fact, remember that you received the telephone call from Clay Bertrand?
Mr. Andrews.
He wasn't there. While he was there, we received no call from Clay Bertrand or no call concerning the office or business because I would have talked to him about it.
Mr. Liebeler.
You say that he left before you called your secretary?
Mr. Andrews.
I think he left around chow time, which, I think, is around 4 o'clock. I could be wrong.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now after giving this time sequence that we have talked about here the consideration that I am sure you have after discussing it with the FBI, have you come up with any solution in your own mind to the apparent problems that exist here? That is to say, that your recollection is that you called your secretary after you received the call from Clay Bertrand and you called your secretary at 4 o'clock, which would indicate that you must have received the call from Clay Bertrand prior to 4 o'clock, but you did not receive the call from Mr. Bertrand while Mr. Davis was there, and he left at approximately 4 o'clock or shortly before you called your secretary, in addition to which, you first recall receiving the call from Clay Bertrand some time between 6 o'clock and 9 o'clock in the evening.
Mr. Andrews.
Well, the time factor I can't help you with. It is impossible. But I feel this: I wouldn't have called my secretary--if I couldn't get her to verify it, I would tell you that I was smoking weed. You know, sailing out on cloud 9.
Mr. Liebeler.
But, in fact, she did verify the fact that you did call her?
Mr. Andrews.
Yes; I often thought it was a nightmare or a dream, but it isn't. It's just that I can't place other than what I told Regis Kennedy and John Rice, the exact time I can't help you on. But if it hadn't been for calling her and asking her--
Mr. Liebeler.
To look up the Oswald file or if she remembered the Oswald file?
Mr. Andrews.
Yes; I would just say I have a pretty vivid imagination and let's just forget it. Anything other than the law practice I would say that what Regis suspects is that I was full of that dope, but I normally take certain steps, and this is the way I would have done it is what I did. I called her. Had Davis been there when the call came in, Davis would have been told, and he would have left the hospital, went down to the office, and shook the office down for the file, and called me from there before he went home. I know it couldn't have come in while he was there. The only media of time that I can use is either medication or food. Of course, being fat, I like food. I wasn't much interested in food. They weren't feeding me too much, and I am pretty sure it was after medication and food and the tray had been picked up that the call came in.
Mr. Liebeler.
Of course, they fed you more than once up there?
Mr. Andrews.
They feed three times a day, but they don't feed you enough to keep a sparrow alive.
Mr. Liebeler.
Well, in any event, you are not able to clarify for us the sequence of what happened?
Mr. Andrews.
Well, the sequence of events had to be this: Davis spent Saturday afternoon with me. He probably left just before chow, and then I ate, and the phone call came in some time after chow. I am positive it wasn't as late as 9 o'clock. I think the latest it could have been is 6, but Miss Springer says I called her some time around 4, 4:30--I don't know which.
Mr. Liebeler.
Miss Springer is your secretary?
Mr. Andrews.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now do you recall talking to an FBI agent, Regis L. Kennedy, and Carl L. Schlaeger on November 25?
Mr. Andrews.
I don't remember--Kennedy, yes; Schlaeger, no. i don't even know if he was in the same room. I don't think I have even seen him, much less talk to him.
Mr. Liebeler.
Kennedy was; yes?
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