(Testimony of Charles W. Greener)
Mr. Greener.
As I recall, no. None of the law enforcing agencies had been by previous to that.
Mr. Liebeler.
Your impression is that he came here because they saw the story in the paper?
Mr. Greener.
That is my idea. Either that, or they were informed by the news reporters.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now did this reporter from the Dallas paper, whose name you don't remember, tell you that Ryder had called him?
Mr. Greener.
No; he told me that he called him, called Ryder.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he tell you how he got the idea to call Ryder?
Mr. Greener.
No; he didn't.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you didn't ask him?
Mr. Greener.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you discuss this question with Ryder?
Mr. Greener.
Yes; I did. And he said he had not talked to a newspaper reporter about it.
Mr. Liebeler.
At all?
Mr. Greener.
Right.
Mr. Liebeler.
So you never had any opportunity or occasion to ask Ryder whether a reporter or, or whether Ryder contacted a reporter, because he simply denied talking to a reporter?
Mr. Greener.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember when you asked Ryder about this?
Mr. Greener.
Must have been on Friday, because I was a little bit aggravated at the whole setup. They got me out of bed a time or two at night, and I believe that I had called the Times Herald to talk to this reporter to see where he was supposed to have been getting his information. I'm sure that after I talked to them that day was when I questioned Ryder. So I feel pretty sure it was Friday or Saturday.
Mr. Liebeler.
The 29th or 30th of November?
Mr. Greener.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did Ryder ever indicate to you that he had talked to a newspaper reporter about this?
Mr. Greener.
No; he did not.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you have any recollection at all of the name of this reporter from the Dallas newspaper?
Mr. Greener.
No; I don't have the slightest idea about talking with reporters until this bunch that was going to run the program on Walter Cronkite's program had contacted me, and he called me.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember his name?
Mr. Greener.
No; I don't remember any of the boys with the television program at all. They had called me and wanted to come down and take some pictures, and he called me, Ryder did.
Mr. Liebeler.
The television men had called Ryder?
Mr. Greener.
That was after the newspaper article had appeared in the newspapers.
Mr. Liebeler.
And Ryder called you and talked to you about it, whether 'these men could come down?
Mr. Greener.
Yes; and I came down and met with them.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember what Ryder told them?
Mr. Greener.
To the best of my knowledge, he told them that we had the ticket, but he didn't remember the name, didn't remember the gun, or the person, because actually here is the thing about this tag here. We have tried to keep a little better record. We get busy, you know, and get a little lax, just like you and everybody else does, and if we got two or three waiting, why, at that time we were not going to dally about what the name is or date or address or telephone number or anything. We felt like we didn't have time.
Mr. Liebeler.
This was just before the deer season?
Mr. Greener.
Yes; I guess the deer season opened November 16 in Texas, and our workload was pretty heavy, and we were working short handed, too, which would be one reason for no more information on the tag or several other tags.
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