Mr. Jenner.

A man of at least, apparently of considerably better means than your mother?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Than you boys had been accustomed to?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

What about his health, what did you understand as to that?

Mr. Pic.

I have no recollection of knowing anything about his health at that time, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. When you were taken from Bethlehem Orphanage in June of 1944, where did you go?

Mr. Pic.

Dallas, Tex., sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And do you recall where you lived in Dallas, Tex.?

Mr. Pic.

I remember what the house looks like, sir. I don't remember the address. You can probably refresh me on that.

Mr. Jenner.

I will do so and I want to make it accurate. 4801 Victor was the address.

Mr. Pic.

That sounds familiar.

Mr. Jenner.

In Dallas. Would you please describe that 4801 Victor Street home?

Mr. Pic.

It was white, two story.

Mr. Jenner.

Frame, brick?

Mr. Pic.

Frame. I think it contained four apartments, maybe only two. I am pretty sure it was four though, two up and two down. We lived on the lower right, in boxcar-type rooms.

Mr. Jenner.

What do you mean by that?

Mr. Pic.

Well, railroad style, living room, bedroom, bathroom, bedroom, kitchen.

Mr. Jenner.

One lined the other, you mean?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. With a long hallway to connect it; is that it?

Mr. Pic.

The hall ran into each room as you walked by it.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; you lived there with your mother, with Lee, and with Robert?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

At the outset?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Ekdahl did not live with you when you first went to Dallas, Tex.?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any recollection where he lived? First, was he in Dallas?

Mr. Pic.

I think he was in Fort Worth, sir. And he used to come over to Dallas to see us. Is that right?

Mr. Jenner.

I think that is right. I can't answer.

Mr. Pic.

Okay.

Mr. Jenner.

That was one of the reasons why I asked my .first question.

Mr. Pic.

I think that is the way the setup was, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

I think that is so but I don't know. He would come over from Fort Worth and visit you?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You boys, when you reached Dallas in 1944, you entered school, grammar school at that time, did you?

Mr. Pic.

Robert--just a moment, sir; I remember I attended a summer school session of the 6th grade. Robert may have. I don't really remember. I think he did.

Mr. Jenner.

We are in the summer of 1944?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir; we went to summer school. I did, I know. I think he may have.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember that it was the Davy Crockett--

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; it was not the Davy Crockett. It was another school. Davy Crockett is where we entered in September. We meanwhile went to summer school.