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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 203« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Carroll Hamilton , Jr. Seeley)

Mr. Seeley.
Yes; from the CIA.
Mr. Coleman.
When you looked at the file, did you know or were you aware after looking at the file that Oswald in June 1963 had been issued a passport?
Mr. Seeley.
I presume I was. The passport is the next item there. and I am sure that I looked at it and saw that he did have a passport.
Mr. Coleman.
Did you after you looked at it say to yourself "can we revoke this passport?"
Mr. Seeley.
I am sure that is why I looked at it. I am sure of that, Mr. Coleman, that I looked at it with that view in mind, if there was any action to be taken of that sort.
Mr. Coleman.
Did you know that he had defected or attempted to defect in 1959?
Mr. Seeley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Coleman.
Did you know that when he attempted to defect that he had indicated that he was going to pass some radar information to the Russians if they gave him citizenship?
Mr. Seeley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Coleman.
Did you know that the Soviet desk had indicated in 1961 or 1962 that it would be to the interests of the United States to get him out of Russia and back to the United States?
Mr. Seeley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Coleman.
Did you note in his passport application for his 1963 passport that he indicated that one of the countries that he intended to travel to was Russia?
Mr. Seeley.
I don't have an independent recollection of that. I presume I did note that.
Mr. Coleman.
And you are saying with all that information that you would look at that file, I take it you did it on October 22?
Mr. Seeley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Coleman.
Read it and just put it back and did nothing about it?
Mr. Seeley.
I did nothing about it other than to note the fact that I had read the telegram.
Mr. Coleman.
All I am saying, just asking for your best recollection--
Mr. Seeley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Coleman.
I realize you did nothing, but wouldn't that cause you to at least do something, to talk to somebody and say, "Can we do something about this?"
Mr. Seeley.
Mr. Ritchie and I undoubtedly talked about this, or at least we both saw it. I was well aware of the file. But there was no particular passport significance to the fact that a man shows up down at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City. He was married to a Soviet citizen. I think there is an indication somewhere she was supposed to report or something. I don't know what the score was on that.
Mr. Coleman.
But the problem is, sir, that--
Mr. Seeley.
But even if she was to report, I don't get the significance of an individual appearing at a Soviet Embassy, either here or anywhere else in the world, by itself meaning anything insofar as passports is concerned.
Mr. Coleman.
Sir, the problem is, if there is a problem, that on June 24, 1963, when Mr. Oswald applied for his passport, the State Department issued it routinely because under the lookout system there was nothing on Oswald, so, therefore, it went out the next day.
Mr. Seeley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Coleman.
And we think, from what we know, that as of June 24 or 25 no one looked at the file, so, therefore, there is no reason why the passport wouldn't go out.
Mr. Seeley.
I would presume from looking at this file, that that is absolutely correct.
Mr. Coleman.
But our problem is that if on June 24 or June 25 someone had looked at the file, would you have issued the passport based upon what was
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