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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. X - Page 325« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Clifton M. Shasteen)

Mr. Shasteen.
I know that customers don't think about that, but we as barbers--that's our business and we watch that and you would be surprised, if a guy comes in and you give a haircut and you thank him, when he pays you, and the barber ordinarily when he leaves for that door, when he starts out, he asks him to come back and if he says, "I'll see you in 2 weeks," or "Thank you for asking me to come back," it just builds up the morale in a shop, but he wasn't that type.
Mr. Jenner.
I might have misled you a little bit ago--I mentioned your being interviewed on the 3d of December. The fact is that interview was on the 2d, was it not, the 2d of December?
Mr. Shasteen.
The fact is--why I say that, he came one day--I didn't put the dates down and I didn't try to remember them, but he came one day and I was real busy--the kids were trying to get a haircut for some program.
Mr. Jenner.
The 2d of December was on a Monday?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; I believe he came Monday and then he came back Tuesday. In other words, he came one day and he got there a little late and the kids were having their pictures made up at the school there nearby and they were sitting in there and he said, "Suppose I come back tomorrow?" He said, "I have some other places I need to go." And I told him it would be fine or I would take him in a few minutes.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall Mr. Odum interviewing at a later time, the 16th of December?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; but he didn't make any notes to my knowledge, but I cut his hair.
Mr. Jenner.
He made notes all right, I can tell you that.
Mr. Shasteen.
He did--I josh and go on with Mr. Odum a lot.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you know him?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Likewise a Monday?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; I believe it was. I cut Mr. Odum's hair about a week half ago. Do you know him? (Addressing Mr. Davis.)
Mr. Davis.
No.
Mr. Shasteen.
He's the type guy you like to have come in any time.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall telling him on that occasion that you had never been able to identify the 14-year old boy, that this boy had been in your shop on one occasion about 2 months prior to that day, that is prior to December 16, and that would make it around the 16th of October?
Mr. Shasteen.
Well, now, we---in other words, there were no customers in there, but the barbers and I think he was in there, as I told you, I think we were nearly positive about that, but if I told you I knew he was, I couldn't be sure about that.
Mr. Jenner.
It was on a Wednesday or Thursday and Oswald's hair was cut on that Occasion by your fellow barber, Burr Glover?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; and Burt is the one that says that was on a Thursday.
Mr. Jenner.
You see, this is what you told Mr. Odum and that Glover says on the next Monday or Tuesday he cut the hair of the 14-year old boy?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And that would be sometime in October?
Mr. Shasteen.
Evidently that's the time that I don't--that wasn't the time that he made the statement at all. If he got a haircut--but, if you know Burr like I know Burr, I don't know that Burt knows that that was the boy, but he still says it is. I think it was-- I wouldn't be sure about it.
Mr. Jenner.
All I have in mind here is your report to Agent Odum. Then you told him at that occasion, that is, when the boy got his haircut on Monday or Tuesday, that Oswald was not in the shop but that somebody else had brought the boy to the shop.
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; somebody let him out.
Mr. Jenner.
Is that something Glover told you?
Mr. Shasteen.
No. When he got his haircut, when he made the statement?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mr. Shasteen.
No; somebody brought him and somebody picked him up, but they didn't pull right in front of the shop. They just let him out in front in the street.
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