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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. X - Page 250« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Mahlon F. Tobias)

Mr. Jenner.
Did she talk to you?
Mrs. Tobias.
Well, she never tried to have a conversation. I walked out to the car and I said, "You moved away and left us."
Mr. Jenner.
You walked out to the car?
Mrs. Tobias.
She was standing by a car--you see, those cars were parked there and I knew where she went, my husband and I would take walks and I said, "Where did you go?" And she made "214" on the car and then I knew it was Neely--I said, "Neely."
Mr. Jenner.
Did she nod her head?
Mrs. Tobias.
Yes; she Was a real sweet little girl as far as I was concerned and she was a lonely person. I think she was very lonely.
Mr. Jenner.
Is there anything you would like to add that I have not brought out, either because I don't know about it or for any reason, that you think might be helpful to the Commission?
Mrs. Tobias.
Well, they said to me that they thought this fellow that moved her out might have been this George, but they brought pictures--do you have pictures of the other men?
Mr. Jenner.
Moved her out?
Mrs. Tobias.
You know--that day when they moved her out.
Mr. Jenner.
Do I have pictures of a man by the name of George?
Mrs. TOBIAS, Yes; they brought some out but now, that did not look like the man to me.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall them showing you a picture and telling you what the man's name was?
Mrs. Tobias.
No; is it Paden?
Mr. Jenner.
The FBI agent?
Mrs. Tobias.
Yes; I think he came to see us twice.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, there are so many of them.
Mrs. Tobias.
And he was about one of the second groups that came and then later he came back with these pictures and he asked me if I thought that was the man I had seen in the hallway.
Mr. Jenner.
That would be the man who came to help her out of the apartment on that Sunday?
Mrs. Tobias.
Yes; he asked me if I thought that was him and I said, "Well, it does not look like him to me." But, there has been a different opinion on that--my husband and I have had a different opinion on that all along about what we thought he looked like, but that did not look like the man to me.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, I want your view.
Mrs. Tobias.
Well, it didn't to me--it didn't look like the same man to me, but I couldn't swear who it was because I've only seen the picture, and I have seen pictures of Mr. Ruby, but the day they apprehended Oswald, of course, we were looking on the TV.
Mr. Jenner.
Did it look like pictures of Mr. Ruby you have seen?
Mrs. Tobias.
Well, the one that he had didn't, but what I was going to tell you--after all that happened, and I seen pictures of him, on the TV----
Mr. Jenner.
Who of Ruby?
Mrs. Tobias.
Yes; I told my husband, I said, "Back in my mind that resembles the man more than anybody I have ever seen in my life," but now I wouldn't swear it because there was no resemblance of the pictures they brought out there to me, and the day that they arrested Mr. Oswald, Lee Oswald, we had TV on and. I said to my husband, "Look who they've got."
He said, "What do you mean?" I said, "That's the guy that shot the President." He said, "Who is it?" I said, "That's Lee Oswald." He said, "How do you know?" And I said, "Don't you see him on there?" I recognized him right off and my husband's memory was kind of shook and he's just not the same person after he had this concussion.
Mr. Jenner.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Mrs. Tobias.
This big oil truck hit my husband, and you know, just almost got the car ahead and his nerves are just not the same they haven't been the same. He says he's Just not as stable be's--he just don't seem to do what he should--it's coming gradually. The doctors say it will come, but he's kind of shook from the accident. I wasn't with him.
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