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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. X - Page 193« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of John G. Graef)

Mr. Graef.
What is the machinations of getting a copy?
Mr. Jenner.
When Miss Oliver has prepared a copy, you may call in and find out from Mr. Sanders and come down and read it, as you see fit and sign it.
Mr. Graef.
Mr. Jenner.
Or, you may waive that. If you wish a copy of your testimony, you may obtain by arrangement with Miss Oliver. She will furnish you one at whatever her usual prices are.
Mr. Graef.
I think--I don't see any need for it--for signing it. There it is.
Mr. Jenner.
Mr. Graef, as these reports reached you from your employees, arousing your attention to the fact that some friction had arisen and was continuing as between him and other employees, what, if anything, did you do to acquaint yourself better with those circumstances and in that connection, tell us whether you talked with others, whether you talked with Lee---in general, Just what did you do in that connection?
Mr. Graef.
The rumors of these flareups, we'll say, I heard about them going back--we'll say, to some 3 months. He was employed with us for a total of 6 months. For about the first 3 months he was in training and it was only after this 3 months' period that he began to be in a close association with the other employees, so about this time, We'll say, the friction began between him and the other employees.
Now, several weeks went past---I'm sure when these things came to pass and when I heard about them, and this, flareup that I witnessed, and I don't know who was to blame, whether it was Lee or whether it was the other fellow. I happened to be on the other side of the darkroom at the time and the two people were both, as I recall, trying to develop film in the same pan, and one
was getting in the way of the other one, and ordinarily there is no---we don't have any trouble about this. All the Jobs are rush, and you just make allowances and move over a little bit and both of you get in there together.
This, I think, is what caused this particular thing, but Lee was quick he had a chip on his shoulder, and he made who spoke first, I really don't recall, but somebody said something about, "How about moving over a little bit?" And the other fellow said, "What do you mean, I have been here first," and one thing led to another, but it was over just about as quickly as it began, so this was the first time that this became evident, but as I said, couldn't actually lay it as it being Lee's fault. Now, these rumors come to me quite frequently. In the whole department we may have 18 or 20 people.
Mr. Jenner.
How many people work under you?
Mr. Graef.
Directly under me, the day shift is seven or eight, and we have a few on the night shift also. We work quite close to this other department--which does photographic work also, and we have a sink on our side for camera work and then there is a developing sink back to back, at which this other department develops their work.
Mr. Graef.
Setting. type photographically. So, out of these ,many people, some of them are more prone to carry tales and others, of course, and you have to weigh the evidence, we'll say, and some of the people that had-come to me during this time and just mentioned, or we'll say, scuttlebutt that went around about Lee being hard to get along with, where, in fact, some of the people are hard to get along with themselves, so you Just had to more or less try to get along with everyone. We all have to do that and it wasn't until this scene happened that I saw how Lee's temper worked, but the the overwhelming mass of evidence everyone it seemed no one liked him.
Mr. Jenner.
And he didn't appear to you to seek to cultivate any?
Mr. Graef.
By this time you see, this 6 months-had elapsed and at this time work was suffering and he at this time---it was definite that he had no friends. Everyone couldn't be wrong, and so all of this evidence weighed against the decision to keep him on as an employee.
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