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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. X - Page 158« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Irving Statman)

Mr. Statman.
Then, in Texas on 5-8-63 it was determined that he was entitled to $33.00 a week.
Mr. Jenner.
On 5-8-63 or 6-8-63--he filed a claim May 29.
Mr. Statman.
No; 4-29-63.
Mr. Jenner.
Oh; 4-29-63--the date of filing the claim was April 29, 1963, and action was taken on that claim by the Texas Employment Commission on.
Mr. Statman.
They made a monetary determination on it on 5-8-63.
Mr. Jenner.
On what date?
Mr. Statman.
On May 8, 1963. In other words, what they do is check his wage credits, and then ascertain how much weekly amount he is entitled to; that is, the weekly benefit amount, and how much total amounts he-is entitled to.
Mr. Jenner.
And What was the total?
Mr. Statman.
The weekly benefit amount was $33 a week, a total of $369; in other words, he could draw for about 11 weeks. - His BYE that's the Benefit Year Ends on 5-28-64. All that means is that the claim is in force to this date.
Mr. Jenner.
He would receive that amount of money per week until that date?
Mr. Statman.
No; until he received a total of $369, but he had that whole year to draw that money. Let's say he went to work for 6 months and let's say he drew 10 cheeks--that would be $330, and then he went to work for 6 months; well, between the 6 months and this 4-28-64, he would still be entitled to draw, if he were unemployed, $69 more.
Now, for some reason or other, he was filing in New Orleans--on these dates, and that is indicated by the I-B-2, that means he is filing an interstate correspondence. This information is sent to Texas and Texas posts it on its card. Do you want all these dates that he filed?
Mr. Jenner.
Well, they are on the record.
Mr. Statman.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
But what I do want to know is-he filed claims when in New Orleans on the dates listed.
Mr. Statman.
Up until this point.
Mr. Jenner.
He filed those up to and including line 11, is that correct?
Mr. Statman.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
So, that would mean he filed claims on 11 separate occasions?
Mr. Statman.
Yes; in New Orleans. That is indicated by the I-B-1 and I-B-2 symbols, indicating that that is an interstate claim. In other words, he is residing in one State and filing against another.
Mr. Jenner.
Excuse me, for the record, those 11 claims--the first is on May 7, 1963, and the 11th is on September 17, 1963, am I correct?
Mr. Statman.
Right. Now, the last two claims, if you will notice----
Mr. Jenner.
Those are on lines what?
Mr. Statman.
Lines 13 and 14, so he filed through line 12.
Mr. Jenner.
Through line 12 rather than through line 11?
Mr. Statman.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And line 12, the date is September 24, 1963?
Mr. Statman.
Now, on the last two dates that he filed a claim--10-3-63 and 10-10-63, the symbol changes to C.C., which indicates "Continued Claim," which in turn indicates that it is an intrastate claim. In other words, he is now filing in Texas against Texas.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, if he had not exhausted his interstate claim, that is the amount due him, and he returned to Dallas
Mr. Statman.
He didn't exhaust his interstate claim---you know, once you set up a claim, that's all the money you get, regardless of which State you are in. He just happened to return to the State in which he had earned his wage credits, so his claim reverted from an interstate claim to an intrastate only due to geographical location, not due to any monetary consideration.
Mr. Jenner.
Then, the explanation is--although the classifications changed from interstate to intrastate, it was the same claim.
Mr. Statman.
Right--it was the same claim, it's just a matter of changing geographical locations.
Mr. Jenner.
Of the claimant?
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