Mr. Statman.

employment might be difficult for a person to obtain due to, maybe inexperience or due to change in occupation or some problem, we have a counseling setup that will counsel this person to the point where we feel we can help place him.
In other words, now, we are not equipped to give him psychological counseling or give him home therapy, Our job is placement counseling and we are trying to counsel them to the point where we can facilitate placing him onto a job and counseling duties then are through.
He was also referred to the counselor due to some apparent counseling needs, and he also filed a claim for unemployment insurance, so those are the three areas that he touched in the Dallas district.

Mr. Jenner.

You learned of those three areas--his touching those areas from books, records and documents of the Commission?

Mr. Statman.

Well, that's true. When this FBI man came in, and I can't think of his name I've got his card, but I probably cleaned my nails with it, but anyway, he came in and asked for a copy of, or the actual documents, and we told him that we had a certain amount of documents here and there were others in Austin, due to that interstate claim situation, and so we gave him all of our records, and also he contacted an FBI agent in Austin, and our Austin State office gave him some records.
Now, in preparing these records, then, I saw the documents that we had on him. Now, what I have with me here is a copy of his application card.

Mr. Jenner.

Could I describe that on the record first?

Mr. Statman.

Yes; I think it is an E-13, let me make sure what this number is, and--it is his application card.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, sir, Mr. Statman has handed me a form entitled--what?

Mr. Statman.

It's an E-13---it's an E-13 application.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you have handed me two sheets.

Mr. Statman.

Now, this represents the front.

Mr. Jenner.

The top sheet I have is the front of the card and the second sheet is the inside or reverse side?

Mr. Statman.

No; the inside---this is a folded affair and, let me me fold it for you properly. In other words, this is the way the card would look.

Mr. Jenner.

It's a foldover card.

Mr. Statman.

Right--like this. Now, this is an exact replica.

Mr. Jenner.

It is letter size when opened fully, and it is folded in half.
The bottom of the top sheet reads, "Application card E-13" (1261) and for purposes of identification of the record what would be the back of the card when folded, but which is the top of the sheet as I hold it in my hand, it reads, "Describe your longest and most important jobs, including Military Service, beginning with your most recent job."
The second sheet which would form the reverse side of the card, portions of which I have read and which in turn would be the inside of the card when folded, has no form number on it, but it reads at the top, "Do not write below this line," and then in the next line in printing, "Conditions affecting employment," in the left-hand side, and "Handicap description," on the right-hand side.

Mr. Statman.

Do you want me to interpret on that?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; I do. [The Exhibit is Cunningham Exhibit No. 1.] Now, this card--I will turn it now back to the front or top of the folded card. Will you state for the record what this is and does it relate to Lee Oswald, first?

Mr. Statman.

This is his application card.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, folding it in half, so that I understand it, as folded in half--what now is facing us with the form number at the bottom, would be top of the folded card. [The original card, of which Cunningham Exhibit No. I is a copy, is in evidence as Cunningham Exhibit No. 1-A.]

Mr. Statman.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

That means that Lee Oswald had a contact with the Texas Employment Commission and this is a record made.

Mr. Statman.

On 10-9-62. This card indicates that he came in.

Mr. Jenner.

That he came in on the 9th of October 1962?

Mr. Statman.

That was his first contact with us.