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(Testimony of Robert Edward Oswald Lee Resumed)
Mr. Oswald.
Marina N. Oswald.
Mr. Jenner.
And your brother spoke in English, did he?
Mr. Oswald.
That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
To the best of your knowledge and present recollection, did Marina understand what he was relating to you? Did he make it apparent to her?
Mr. Oswald.
I believe, sir, to the best of my recollection that generally she was apparent to what he was saying to me. I do feel like she certainly recognized the name of Mr. Paul Gregory and was able more or less to fill in the conversation to the extent that she understood that Mr. Gregory was due to arrive, and that they were to converse in the Russian language for his benefit.
And it was my understanding at this time, either implied or stated to me, by Lee Harvey Oswald, that this was not the first occasion that this had occurred.
Mr. Jenner.
I see.
Mr. Mckenzie.
Mr. Dulles, if I may interrupt at this time--you have brought here with you this morning a copy of the New York Times which you have very kindly allowed me to look at and read.
On page 22 of the New York Times, Saturday edition, February 22, 1964, is an article there----
Mr. Dulles.
I may add I have not read the paper yet.
Mr. Mckenzie.
There is an article here by Mr. Anthony Lewis, correspondent for the New York Times, dateline Washington, February 21, which I would like to put into the record.
Now, the reason I would like to put it into the record----
Mr. Jenner.
Mr. McKenzie, would it suit your convenience if we finished this incident, and then you put this matter into the record, or is it pertinent to this particular point?
Mr. Mckenzie.
It is not pertinent to this line of inquiry, Mr. Jenner. But with the Chairman's permission, I would like to insert it into the record, or make a statement into the record at this time.
Mr. Dulles.
It is all right--go ahead.
Mr. Mckenzie.
It is apparent to me, from a reading of this article, that someone other than Robert Oswald or myself has made a statement to the press. We have consistently stated to the press that Mr. Oswald was under oath before this Commission, and that being under oath before this Commission he was in no position, or that it would not be an appropriate time for any statement to be given to the press.
And yet in this article, Mr. Lewis has given some direct quotes, or what appear to be direct quotes, of Mr. Oswald's testimony before this Commission.
Mr. Dulles.
I wonder if it would be agreeable to you, if we go off the record at this point.
Mr. Mckenzie.
If I may still be on the record for one more second, please, sir--I would like to further and say that some of the text of this article gives testimony in the same light, and nearly in the same manner in which Robert Oswald has testified.
Now, if there is a leak to the press, or if anyone on the Commission or its staff are giving articles to the press, then I want to know as soon as possible, because if that is so we will go down and have a press interview, and I just don't think it is fair to the witness, nor do I think it is fair to the Commission.
And if you feel that I am right in my statement here, then I would like to have this article inserted in the record.
Now, if you would like to go off the record, that is fine with me, sir.
Mr. Dulles.
Just for a moment.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Dulles.
Back on the record.
Mr. Mckenzie.
Mr. Dulles, off the record we have discussed the New York Times article, and I have stated to you--the New York Times article referred to as the one by Anthony Lewis, of February 22, 1964.
Mr. Dulles.
I think it is of February 21, but reported in the Times on February 22.
Mr. Mckenzie.
That is correct.
I have stated to you that at no time to my knowledge has Robert Oswald
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