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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 398« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
Mrs, PAINE. It is an oak.
Mr. Jenner.
An oak tree---I would say about 26 inches through, which is in the center of the lawn in front of the house. We will measure it, John Joe, and the lawn in due course, but the Secret Service automobile is now parked at the curb on the northeast street, which is the curb at the Paine home and directly in front of which is the blue and cream-colored automobile. Is that a four-door or two-door?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't know--I guess it is a two-door.
Mr. Jenner.
It is a two-tone, two-colored car, blue body and a cream-colored trim, which extends across the hood. The front bumper of Agent Howlett's automobile is just about touching the rear bumper of the automobile. The two cars together, or the combined length spans substantially all of the space between the driveway on the left, which is, I take it, the driveway to the Roberts home.
Mrs. Paine.
No; they are on the other side of the street. It's a home that's not now used.
Mr. Jenner.
The house is not occupied--that home?
Mrs. Paine.
It has not been occupied for over a year.
Mr. Jenner.
That home that I am talking about is the home to the east, and as the witness has stated, it has not been occupied for a year.
It was unoccupied, then, during the time that Marina stayed with you last fall?
Mrs. Paine.
That's right.
Mr. Jenner.
And the front end or front bumper of the blue and cream automobile is just a few feet east of the automobile drive over on the west side of the Paine premises?
Mrs. Paine.
I would like to put my children to bed now.
Mr. Jenner.
Could you wait just 1 second? I wish John Joe would check me on this standing where I am, looking out this window.
It is impossible--at least impossible to see any license plate on either of the two automobiles parked at the curb I have described.
Agent HOWLETT. Yes; that's correct.
Mr. Jenner.
And, you are shining your searchlight on both automobiles?
Agent HOWLETT. I am shining a flashlight on the front and rear of both automobiles and you cannot even see the license plate, much less any of the numbers.
Mr. Jenner.
You can't even see whether there are license plates, let alone make out the numbers?
Agent HOWLETT. That's correct, you can't even see the numbers.
Mr. Jenner.
All right, we will suspend for your convenience now.
(At this point Counsel Jenner, Agent Howlett, and Mrs. Paine, as well as the court reporter, left the area of the bedroom heretofore mentioned from which window the examination was being made of premises outside the window, Mrs. Paine proceeding to care for her children and Counsel Jenner, Agent Howlett and the court reporter returning to the dining room-kitchen area where the deposition is primarily being conducted. Shortly thereafter Mrs. Paine returned to the area of the taking of the deposition and proceedings of same continued as follows:)
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, you were present when I described the view or described my observations looking through the picture window first on Fifth Street?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And, was I accurate in my description of the lot area and the automobiles parked in front and what could be seen and what could not be seen in the way of a license plate?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; you were accurate.
Mr. Jenner.
On the 5th day of November did an agent of the FBI come for a second time to interview you?
Mrs. Paine.
I didn't recall the day, but I have been told it was that day--yes.
Mr. Jenner.
While you do recall that it was 4 or 5 days after the 1st of November?
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