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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 397« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
You may affirm me.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. Do you affirm that the testimony that you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
Mrs. Paine.
To the very best of my ability, I do so affirm.
Mr. Jenner.
Present at the taking of this deposition is John Joe Howlett, H-o-w-l-e-t-t [spelling] of the U.S. Secret Service.
We are at the moment in the dining room-kitchen area of Mrs. Paine's home; is that correct, Mrs. Paine?
Mrs. Paine.
That's correct.
Mr. Jenner.
And Mr. Howlett and I have measured the rooms in the presence of Mrs. Paine. The dining room-kitchen area is open. It's full length from wall to wall is 25 feet and 4 inches in length and 12 feet, 4 inches in width. The distance from the west wall of the dining room-kitchen area to the outside wall of the bedroom on the northeast corner is 31 feet, 2 inches. That particular bedroom in the northeast corner is 12 feet by 12 feet, 1 inch. The southeast corner of the house consists of a bedroom directly to the south of the first bedroom I have just described and it is 12 feet, 1 inch by 10 feet, 9 inches. That particular bedroom opens by window, a large picture window onto West Fifth Street. The northeast bedroom has two windows, one on the north wall and one on the east wall. These are unlike the southeast bedroom in that neither of these windows is a picture window.
Mrs. Paine.
The southeast bedroom also has two windows and the picture window, I think, gives a slightly larger impression than I have of it--it's around 43 inches wide.
Mr. Jenner.
Shall we measure it, then?
(At this point Counsel Jenner and Agent Howlett took the measurements discussed.)
Mr. Jenner.
The picture window facing on Fifth Street is--why don't you recite it, Mr. Howlett?
Agent HOWLETT. Three feet, three inches and four feet, eight inches high.
Mr. Jenner.
Three feet, three inches wide and four feet, eight inches high?
Agent HOWLETT. Right.
Mrs. Paine.
That's not very wide is it--39 inches?
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, would you be good enough to go outside at the curb and stand at the place at which the FBI agent's automobile was on, as I recall your testimony, November 5, 1963, so that we can observe you through the picture window we have just mentioned and read it in the evidence?
Mrs. Paine.
I'll do my best.
(At this point the witness, Mrs. Paine, left the house and proceeded to comply with the request of Counsel Jenner and Counsel Jenner stationed himself in the bedroom referred to before the window.)
Mr. Jenner.
Back on the record. Mrs. Paine, I have asked you to locate as near as you can, to the best of your recollection, the position of the FBI agent's automobile where he parked on November 5, 1962, when he made his second visit to you, and have you done so?
Mrs. Paine.
To the best of my recollection I have to say to you that I cannot be absolutely certain that the blue Oldsmobile was in front of my house on that day. I don't remember for certainty. If my husband's other car was being fixed, it was not in front of the house but that should be easily determined by asking the repair shop.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, would you afford me your best recollection, however, at the moment?
Mrs. Paine.
My best recollection is that it was on the street. You now see Mr. Howlett's car.
Mr. Jenner.
I will describe that and you listen to me as I describe it. I am now in the southeast bedroom of Mrs. Paine's home, looking out the picture window facing onto Fifth Avenue.
Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Jenner.
On Fifth Street.
Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Jenner.
And I see two automobiles; first, there is a large--what is that, an elm or oak?
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