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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 136« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Elmer L. Boyd)

Mr. Boyd.
I don't know---he just struck me as being the man, you know, who liked to move around a lot---I don't know that he did, but he just struck me as being a man that acted like he was not satisfied and---in one place.
Mr. Ball.
When you participated in the search of Oswald and found five pistol cartridges in his pants pocket, was there any discussion of these bullets with him; did he say anything, or did you say anything to him about it?
Mr. Boyd.
I just asked him, "What were they doing in there," and he said, "I just had them in my pocket."
Mr. Stern.
The memorandum mentions the cartridges--bus transfer, except that he had a ring on his finger which he took off and he gave it to Mr. Sims. Do you remember any other items that he had that you got from him during this search?
Mr. Boyd.
No, sir; I know that Mr. Sims did get the bus transfer and took his ring--he took his ring off and give it to Mr. Sims, and I got those five shells, and that's all that I recall being taken from him.
Mr. Stern.
Do you remember an identification bracelet in the course of that investigation?
Mr. Boyd.
Let me see I'm trying to think if he had an identification bracelet. When we were up in Captain Fritz' office the first time I recall--I don't recall if I saw that bracelet then or not--it seemed like I did. I know I saw a little card with his picture on it.
Mr. Stern.
But this was not something you obtained in your search?
Mr. Boyd.
No; I didn't.
Mr. Stern.
That had been obtained earlier, apparently.
That's all. Do you have anything else?
Mr. Ely.
Yes. Mr. Boyd, when you first saw Oswald when you went to the interrogation room and got him--do you remember that?
Mr. Boyd.
Yes.
Mr. Ely.
Who was with him in the interrogation room prior to your arrival?
Mr. Boyd.
I am not positive about who was with him--there's some uniformed men in there and I believe there was Officer K. E. Lyons, but I would be afraid to say for sure, because I'm not positive, but I believe that's who it was.
Mr. Ely.
Do you know whether whoever it was there with them, were they talking to him or questioning him, or don't you know?
Mr. Boyd.
Well, I don't know. I just took it that they were the ones that brought him into---into the office up there. They were more or less just waiting for somebody.
I just assumed they were part of the officers that were out in the Texas Theatre where they arrested him and transferred down to our office from Oak Cliff.
Mr. Ely.
Now, referring to the press conference Friday night, I believe you mentioned that part of the time Oswald seemed angry to you, do you know what it was that upset him?
Mr. Boyd.
When someone called to him and asked him why he shot the President, that seemed like that's what upset him.
Mr. Ely.
Do you know if there is anyone who could tell us who picked the people in the various lineups--you don't know exactly, but did you know, is there anybody you could tell us?
Mr. Boyd.
I just don't know who it would be.
Mr. Ely.
On Friday night, about what time did you check Oswald into the jail there?
Mr. Boyd.
I think it was around 12:20 in the morning, I believe. According to my watch, I believe that's what I went by---that's what the time would be, of course, it could be a few minutes off. We turned him over to the jailers at 12:23 a.m.
Mr. Ely.
Do you know whether he was checked out of the jail again after that time? Late at night--I realize you checked him out the next morning.
Mr. Boyd.
No, sir; I don't know.
Mr. Ely.
You don't know?
Mr. Boyd.
No.
Mr. Ely.
I believe that's all I have.
Mr. Ball.
Well, Mr. Boyd, this will be written up and it will be submitted to
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