Mr. Ball.

And what were you doing?

Mr. Dougherty.

I was getting some stock.

Mr. Ball.

And what did you do then?

Mr. Dougherty.

Well, I came on back downstairs.

Mr. Ball.

How did you come downstairs?

Mr. Dougherty.

I used that push button elevator on the west side.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear Mr. Truly yell anything up the elevator shaft?

Mr. Dougherty.

I didn't hear anybody yell.
Mr. BALL. Or, did you see Mr. Truly?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Well, when the FBI men---I imagine it was who it was---he showed me his credentials, but he asked me who the manager was, and I told him, "Mr. Truly." He told me to go find him. Well, I didn't know where he was so I started from the first floor and Just started looking for him, and .by the time I got to the sixth floor, they had found a gum and shells.
Mr. BALL. When you went up to the sixth floor, it was after they found the shotgun and shells?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Yes, sir; and I found out later he was on the fourth floor, which I didn't find.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see a gun around there?

Mr. Dougherty.

No, sir; I sure didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see anybody with a gun in the place?

Mr. Dougherty.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see any strangers in the building that day?

Mr. Dougherty.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see Lee Oswald carry any sort of large package?

Mr. Dougherty.

Well, I didn't, but some of the fellows said they did.

Mr. Ball.

Who said that?

Mr. DOUGHERTY. Well, Bill Shelley, he told me that he thought he saw him carrying a fairly good-sized package.

Mr. Ball.

When did Shelley tell you that?

Mr. Dougherty.

Well, it was--the day after it happened.

Mr. Ball.

Are you sure you were on the fifth floor when you heard the shots?

Mr. Dougherty.

Yes, I'm positive.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see any other employee on the fifth floor?

Mr. DOUGHERTY. No, sir; I didn't see nobody---there wasn't nobody on the fifth floor at all---it was just myself.
Mr. BALL. You told me that just before you heard the shots, you had been on the sixth floor?

Mr. Dougherty.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

And then you went down to the fifth floor?

Mr. Dougherty.

That's right.
Mr. BALL. Did you see anybody on the sixth floor when you were there, before you went to the fifth floor?

Mr. Dougherty.

Oh, yes; I did.

Mr. Ball.

Who?

Mr. Dougherty.

Well, there was Bill Shelley, Billy Lovelady---

Mr. Ball.

That was in the morning, wasn't it?

Mr. Dougherty.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

That wasn't after lunch, was it?

Mr. Dougherty.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

After lunch, did you ever see them on the sixth floor?

Mr. Dougherty.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Now, did you hear this shot either before or after lunch?

Mr. Dougherty.

It was before lunch it was before lunch.

Mr. Ball.

You think it was before lunch you heard the shot?

Mr. Dougherty.

I believe it was--yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And you were alone, were you?

Mr. Dougherty.

Yes.
Mr. BALL. That's all I have to ask you, and this will be written up and if you would like to come down and read it and sign it, you can, or you can waive your signature.
What do you want to do?