Mr. Belin.

Could other employees come and pick up some of the tape for themselves?

Mr. West.

Yes, sir; they could come get it if they wanted to use it, but all the time it was there where it is supposed to be.

Mr. Belin.

Did other employees from time to time come and borrow some of that tape at all, or use it? Would other employees ever use any of that tape for themselves?

Mr. West.

Not as I know of now.

Mr. Belin.

If I wanted to use any of that tape, you know that tape that you use to seal it, is there a way to make tape wet so I don't have to lick it myself with my tongue to make it wet and sticky? Or how did you get it to be sticky and stick together?

Mr. West.

Well, we have those machines with the little round ball that we fill them up with water, and so we set them up. In to other words, I got a rack that we set them in, and so we put out tape in a machine, and whenever we pull the tape through, why then the water gets, you know, it gets water on it as we pull it through.

Mr. Belin.

If I wanted to pull the tape, pull off a piece without getting water on it, would I just lift it up without going over the wet roller and get the tape without getting it wet?

Mr. West.

You would have to take it out. You would have to take it out of the machine. See, it's put on there and then run through a little clamp that holds it down, and you pull it, well, then the water, it gets water on it.

Mr. Belin.

Is this an electrical machine or is it Just kind of a little apparatus for Just pulling it through by hand?

Mr. West.

Well, it is not electric, no, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Now going back to November 22, you said you quit for lunch around noon on that day on Friday, November 22?

Mr. West.

Yes. About 12 o'clock we always quit for lunch.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember any of the men coming down the elevator that day? Bonnie Ray Williams or James Jarman, Jr., or Danny Arce, or any one else coming down that morning? Charlie Givens?
Do you remember them coming down the elevator, or don't you remember?

Mr. West.

I don't remember.

Mr. Belin.

Now, after you quit for lunch, you made the coffee then?

Mr. West.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Where did you make the coffee?

Mr. West.

I made the coffee right there close to the wrapping mail table where I wrap mail.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. West.

Well, I sit down to eat my lunch.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. West.

Well, I had just, after I made coffee, I just had started to eat my lunch because I was a little hungry---I didn't eat anything that morning before I went to work---and I had started to eat my lunch.
But before I got through, well, all of this was, I mean, the police and things was coming in, and I was just spellbound. I just didn't know what was the matter. So I didn't get through eating. I had to eat about half my lunch, and that is all.

Mr. Belin.

Did you hear any shots fired?

Mr. West.

I didn't hear a one. Didn't hear a one.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see anyone else on the first floor while you were eating your lunch? Anyone else at all did you see on the first floor?

Mr. West.

It wasn't anybody. I didn't see anybody around at that time.

Mr. Belin.

At any time while you were making coffee or eating your lunch, did you see anyone else on the first floor?

Mr. West.

No, sir; I didn't see.

Mr. Belin.

Who was the first person you saw on the first floor after you--- while you were eating your lunch? Someone came in the building?

Mr. West.

Yes; before I got through. The officers and things were coming in the front door.