Mr. Harkness.

No, Sir.
Mr. BELIN. Sir, we want to thank you very much for coming down here and testifying.
You have an opportunity, if you would like, to come back and read your deposition when it is typed, and sign it, or you can waive reading and signing it and just have the court reporter send the transcript to us directly in Washington. If you have any preference, you might let us know.
Mr. HARKNESS. l have no preference. I just hope I have been able to help you on these directions, because they are complicated to give directions, especially when you try to convince.
Mr. BELIN. In any event, do you want to sign or waive signing? You have a right to sign or you can waive the signing of it and send it directly to us, whatever you want to do.

Mr. Harkness.

Waiver is customary? It doesn't make any difference.

Mr. BELIN. Some people do one way and some the other way. Do you want to come back and read it and sign it, or do you want to waive signing it and let the court reporter send us the transcript direct?

Mr. Harkness.

What has most of them been doing?

Mr. BELIN. Gosh, I have them doing both ways. I couldn't tell you what most have been doing, sir.
Mr. HARKNESS. I will just waive.
J. Herbert Sawyer

Testimony of J. Herbert Sawyer

The testimony of J. Herbert Sawyer was taken at 3:45 p.m., on April 8, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Belin.

Would you stand and raise your right hand.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Sawyer.

I do.

Mr. Belin.

What As your occupation?

Mr. Sawyer.

Inspector of Police.

Mr. Belin.

Of what Police Department?

Mr. Sawyer.

Dallas Police Department.

Mr. Belin.

You live here in Dallas?

Mr. Sawyer.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Inspector, how long have you been with the Police Department?

Mr. Sawyer.

23 years.
Mr. BELIN. That would be then you came to the Police Department around 1941 or so?
Mr. SAWYER. 1941, is right.

Mr. Belin.

You have been with them ever since 1941?

Mr. Sawyer.

Except for a brief hitch in the Service during the war.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do in the Service?

Mr. Sawyer.

I was a yeoman in the Navy.

Mr. Belin.

Honorable discharge?

Mr. Sawyer.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Prior to going into the Service, what did you do?

Mr. Sawyer.

Policeman.

Mr. Belin.

Before you went into the Service?

Mr. Sawyer.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Did you go to school here in Dallas?

Mr. Sawyer.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Graduated from high school?

Mr. SAWYER. Yes. I didn't graduate. I lacked half a year.