Mr. Harkness.

He told me that the shots came from the window under the ledge.

Mr. Belin.

Of what building?

Mr. Harkness.

Of the School Book Depository.

Mr. Belin.

Now have you since gone back to that building?

Mr. Harkness.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Do you know where the ledge is?

Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir; let's see, I have been by the place a million times. The ledge there is the one window where it came from, I believe.
Mr. BELIN. You can't right now definitely state what floor the ledge would be?

Mr. Harkness.

Well---

Mr. Belin.

If you can't, I would rather not have you guess, but if you do know, I would like to have you state.

Mr. Harkness.

I believe that it---

Mr. Belin.

Sergeant, now, do you know where that ledge is now?

Mr. Harkness.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Between what floors is the ledge?

Mr. Harkness.

The ledge is between, over the sixth floor.
Mr. BELIN. All right, well here in your police report I show you Sawyer Deposition Exhibit A, you said the, "Witness says shots came from fifth floor Texas School Book Depository." Did the witness say it was from the sixth floor, or did he say' it was from the fifth floor?

Mr. Harkness.

He said it was from the fifth floor.

Mr. Belin.

What were the exact words of the witness?

Mr. Harkness.

The exact words of the witness "It was under the ledge," which would put it on the sixth floor. It was my error in a hasty count of the floors.
Mr. BELIN. Did the witness say what particular window on that floor that he saw it on? On the floor under the ledge?
Mr. HARKNESS. Said it was the last window, which would indicate it would be the last window on the east side of the building.
Mr. BELIN. Did he say to his right as he saw it, or did he just say the last window from where he was standing?
Mr. HARKNESS. Last window from where he was standing, and at that point it would indicate that it would be the last window on the east side of the building facing Elm Street.

Mr. Belin.

Were you standing at the time, on the north or south side of Elm when you talked to this witness?

Mr. Harkness.

I was.
Mr. BELIN. When you were with this witness, had this Amos Euins, were you standing on the north or the south side of Elm as it goes into the Parkway there?
Mr. HARKNESS. Elm as it goes under the Parkway--was between Elm where it goes under the triple underpass, and the extension of Elm there in that park area.

Mr. Belin.

So that is where you were standing?

Mr. Harkness.

Yes.
Mr. BELIN. So that would be north of Elm as it goes into the underpass, but south of the extension of Elm ?

Mr. Harkness.

Where that building is, yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Would you have been west of the School Book Depository Building at that time?

Mr. Harkness.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

So the witness pointed to the last one on that floor? That would be the last one which would be to the east, is that correct?

Mr. Harkness.

That's correct.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else you can remember this witness said?

Mr. Harkness.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether or not he saw a rifle?

Mr. Harkness.

He couldn't tell.