Mr. Stern.

Would you state for the record your name and residence address.

Mr. Hargis.

Bobby W. Hargis, 1818 Adelaide, Dallas, Tex.

Mr. Stern.

What is your occupation?

Mr. Hargis.

Police officer.
Mr. STERN. How long have you been a member of the Dallas Police Department?

Mr. Hargis.

Nine years and about 7 months.

Mr. Stern.

And you are now a member of the motorcycle---

Mr. Hargis.

Division.

Mr. Stern.

Division?

Mr. Hargis.

Yes.

Mr. Stern.

Were you a part of the motorcade on November 22d?

Mr. Hargis.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Stern.

In what position?

Mr. Hargis.

I was at the left-hand side of the Presidential limousine.

Mr. Stern.

At what part of the President's car?

Mr. Hargis.

Well---

Mr. Stern.

Front, or rear?

Mr. Hargis.

Oh. Rear.

Mr. Stern.

Riding next to Mrs. Kennedy?

Mr. Hargis.

Right.
Mr. STERN. Will you describe what occurred or what you observed as the limousine turned into Elm Street?
Mr. HARGIS. Well, at the time that the limousine turned left on Elm Street I was staying pretty well right up with the car. Sometimes on Elm we couldn't get right up next to it on account of the crowd, but the crowd was thinning out down here at the triple underpass, so, I was next to Mrs. Kennedy when I heard the first shot, and at that time the President bent over, and Governor Connally turned around. He was sitting directly in front of him, and a real shocked and surprised expression on his face.

Mr. Stern.

On Governor Connally's?

Mr. HARGIS. Yes; that is why I thought Governor Connally had been shot first, but it looked like the President was bending over to hear what he had to say, and I thought to myself then that Governor Connally, the Governor had been hit, and then as the President raised back up like that (indicating) the shot that killed him hit him. I don't know whether it was the second or the third shot. Everything happened so fast.

Mr. Stern.

But, you cannot now recall more than two shots?
Mr. HARGIS. That is all that I can recall remembering. Of course, everything was moving so fast at the time that there could have been 30 more shots that I probably never would have noticed them.
Mr. STERN. Did something happen to you, personally in connection with the shot you have just described?

Mr. Hargis.

You mean about the blood hitting me?

Mr. Stern.

Yes.
Mr. HARGIS. Yes; when President Kennedy straightened back up in the car the bullet him in the head, the one that killed him and it seemed like his head exploded, and I was splattered with blood and brain, and kind of a bloody water. It wasn't really blood. And at that time the Presidential car slowed down. I heard somebody say, "Get going," or "get going,"----

Mr. Stern.

Someone inside---
Mr. HARGIS. I don't know whether it was the Secret Service car, and I remembered seeing Officer Chaney. Chaney put his motor in' first gear and accelerated up to the front to tell them to get everything out of the way, that he was coming through, and that is when the Presidential limousine shot off, and I stopped and got off my motorcycle and ran to the right-hand side of the street, behind the light pole.

Mr. Stern.

Just a minute. Do you recall your impression at the time regarding the source of the shots?

Mr. HARGIS. Well, at the time it sounded like the shots were right next to me. There wasn't any way in the world I could tell where they were coming from, but at the time there was something in my head that said that they probably