Mr. Martin.

There was another officer riding with me, B. W. Hargis.

Mr. Ball.

He was parallel to you on another motorcycle?

Mr. Martin.

Yes, sir; we were---

Mr. Ball.

Two motorcycles abreast?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

As you turned onto Houston from Main, can you tell me about the of the President's car?

Mr. Martin.

My estimation would be 4 to 5 miles an hour when we made the turn onto Elm Street from Houston.

Mr. Ball.

From Houston?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.
Mr. BALL. Now, did you make the turn from Main to Houston about the same speed?
Mr. MARTIN. No, sir; we were going a little faster, I would say---between probably 10 and 15 miles an hour.
Mr. BALL. And then the block between Main and Elm, did the motorcade slow down?

Mr. Martin.

It slowed down just before we made the turn onto Elm Street.

Mr. Ball.

Let's take the President's car--what do you think the speed of the President's car was as you made that turn from Houston onto Elm

Mr. Martin.

I believe the speed was about 4 or 5 miles an hour.

Mr. Ball.

What was your speed?

Mr. Martin.

Approximately the same maybe a mile slower.
Mr. BALL. Were you able to maintain your position on the two-wheeler motorcycle ?

Mr. Martin.

Yes, sir; I believe I did.
Mr. BALL. What is the minimum speed at which you can maintain the position of that motorcycle?
Mr. MARTIN. About 2 miles per hour, I would imagine.

Mr. Ball.

Did the President's car pick up any speed from the corner of Houston and Elm-we'll say half way down..that hill?

Mr. Martin.

No, sir; I don't recall it picking up any speed in there.

Mr. Ball.

They were going fairly slow?

Mr. MARTIN. It may have picked up, gradually picked up, but not enough that I could notice.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear any unusual noise?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes, sir; I heard a shot, or what I thought at the time to be a shot.
Mr. BALL. What was the position of your motorcycle at that time with reference to the President's car?

Mr. Martin.

Just to the rear of his car---on the left rear of his car.
Mr. BALL. How far from the car, I'll say, to the left of the car and then how far to the rear--so I can get some idea of your position?
Mr. MARTIN. I would say that my motor was 5-foot to the left and approximately 6- to 8-foot to the rear.

Mr. Ball.

Of the President's car?

Mr. Martin.

Of the President's car.

Mr. Ball.

Were you anywhere near the front end of the Secret Service car?

Mr. Martin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

The car the Secret Service men were in?

Mr. MARTIN. Yes; we were alongside the front end of their car, because one of the agents got off of the car after the first shot. The best I can remember---I was fairly close to him---he was the person riding on the fender of the car and the first agent from the front of the car, and I was fairly close to him when he jumped off of the car.
Mr. BALL. Now, where was the motorcycle driven by Mr. Hargis, with reference to your right or to your left?

Mr. Martin.

He was to my right when we made the turn on Houston Street.

Mr. Ball.

At the time you heard this shot, where was he?

Mr. Martin.

I presume he was still to my right. I don't recall seeing him after the shots.