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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VI - Page 161« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Malcolm O. Couch)

Mr. Couch.
No; I can't think of anything. No.
Mr. Belin.
In this same FBI report of an interview with you, it states that--and by the way, I did not show this to you when you first chatted about this--is that correct?
Mr. Couch.
Uh-huh; that's right.
Mr. BELIN. There is a statement as to. the time sequence that you heard, first, two loud noises about 10 seconds apart. And you related here that it would have been 5 seconds apart or less. Do you remember whether or not at the time you gave your first statement to the FBI you said 10 seconds or would you have said about 10 seconds or would you have said less than 10 seconds--or could this be inaccurate, as sometimes happens?
Mr. COUCH. I don't recall now. Ten seconds is not a reasonable time; even if I said "about 10 seconds." I know a little bit more about timing than that. We have to time our stories pretty close---and that's a long time.
Mr. Belin.
And what's your' best recollection now as to the amount of time between shots?

Mr. COUCH. Well, I would say the longest time would be 5 seconds, but it could be from 3 to 5.
Mr. BELIN. And would this be true between the first and the second shots as well as between the second and third--or would there have been a difference?
Mr. COUCH. As I recall, the time sequence between the three were relatively the same.
Mr. Belin.
Now, Mr. Couch, shortly before we commenced taking this
deposition, you and I met for the first time. Is that correct?
Mr. Couch.
That's correct.
Mr. Belin.
And then we came to this room and we chatted for a few minutes before We started taking a formal deposition. Is that correct?
Mr. Couch.
That's correct.
Mr. BELIN. Now, is there anything that we talked about pertaining to the assassination that in any way differs or conflicts with the testimony that you have just given?
Mr. Couch.
No; no.
Mr. BELIN. What is the fact as to whether or not I questioned you in great detail about each question or whether or not I just asked, you to relate the story to me?
Mr. COUCH. You asked me to give general highlight impressions before we began.
Mr. BELIN. And then, after you gave those to me, we started taking the deposition--is that correct?
Mr. Couch.
That's correct.
Mr. BELIN. And then you repeated on the deposition what we had talked about--is that right?
Mr. Couch.
That's right--in more detail.
Mr. BELIN. Is there anything else that you can think of at this time which, in any way, would affect the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy?
Mr. Couch.
No; I cannot think of anything.
Mr. BELIN. Well, we want to thank you very much for taking your time to come down here. We know that you're a busy man. We also would like you to convey our thanks to station WFAA-TV for allowing you to come down here. We appreciate it very much.
Mr. Couch.
Thank you, sir.
Mr. Belin.
Mr. Couch, we're going back on the record again. You're still under oath--and I'm not quite sure whether I asked this question, but I had better ask it again. When you saw this rifle being withdrawn. About how much of it could you see at first?
Mr. Couch.
I'd say just about a foot of it.
Mr. BELIN. And in what direction was the barrel pointing at the time you saw it being withdrawn?
Mr. COUCH. Approximately a 45° angle westward--which would be pointing down Elm Street.
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