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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 69« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Robert A. Frazier)

Mr. Dulles.
And the outside surface was the surface away from where the occupants were sitting?
Mr. Frazier.
That is correct; yes.
Mr. Dulles.
And the inside surface was the surface nearest the occupants?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes.
Mr. Specter.
What do those characteristics indicate as to which side of the windshield was struck?
Mr. Frazier.
It indicates that it could only have been struck on the inside surface. It could not have been struck on the outside surface because of the manner in which the glass broke and further because of the lead residue on the inside surface. The cracks appear in the outer layer of the glass because the glass is bent outward at the time of impact which stretches the outer layer of the glass to the point where these small radial or wagon spoke-wagon wheel spoke-type cracks appear on the outer surface.
Mr. Dulles.
So the pressure must have come from the inside and not from the outside against the glass?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; that is correct.
Mr. Dulles.
As far as the car is concerned from the back to the front?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Dulles.
Not from outside against the glass--from the front against the glass.
Mr. Frazier.
That is right.
Mr. Specter.
Was a comparison made of the lead residues on the inside of the windshield with any of the bullet fragments recovered about which you have heretofore testified?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes. They were compared with the bullet fragment found on the front seat, which in turn was compared with Commission 399. The lead was found to be similar in composition. However, that examination in detail was made by a spectrographer, Special Agent John F. Gallagher.
Mr. Specter.
Was that examination made in the regular course of examining procedures by the FBI?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
And was that information made available to you through the normal conference procedures among FBI examiners?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir. He submitted his report to me and I prepared the formal report of the entire examination.
Mr. Specter.
Are his report and your formal report a part of the permanent record of the FBI then?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
I now show you Commission Exhibit No. 350 which has heretofore been identified as a picture of the windshield of the Presidential limousine and I ask you if that is the crack about which you have just testified?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes; it is. This Exhibit 350 is a photograph which I took on the 23d of November, showing a view from the front toward the rear of the Presidential limousine and showing the crack in the glass and the lead residue on the inside surface.
Mr. Specter.
Would you produce at this time the lead residue obtained by you from that inside surface, please? May it please the Commission, I would like to mark this as Commission Exhibit 841 and move for its admission into evidence at this time.
Mr. Dulles.
It shall be admitted into evidence.
(Commission Exhibit No. 841 was marked for identification and received in evidence.)
Mr. Dulles.
May I just ask a question of you, Mr. Specter, and possibly of the witness.
I assume that the windshield we are now discussing is the windshield that was exhibited to the Commission several weeks ago and which members of the Commission examined?
Mr. Specter.
It was, Mr. Dulles, and we can establish that, of record, through another Commission Exhibit which is 351, which was the number given to the windshield and we have a reproduction here through the photograph.
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