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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IV - Page 466« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of James Patrick , Jr. Hosty)

Mr. Hosty.
To make this a little clearer, this would be an interview of a subject, not of a witness, unless this witness has something that was quite pertinent to the investigation.
Routine-type matters do not have to be put on these interview forms, but pertinent interviews would be. Now everything in this case after the assassination was declared to be pertinent. All interviews, regardless of how insignificant, were to be put on these forms.
Mr. Stern.
But the interviews you conducted at the beginning of November and the end of October were not within this rule?
Mr. Hosty.
No; because they were not an interview of the subject or anything that contained anything of major importance.
Mr. Stern.
Do you yourself destroy the notes?
Mr. Hosty.
Yes.
Mr. Stern.
Do you recall specifically destroying the notes of your interview?
Mr. Hosty.
Yes, sir; in the wastebasket.
Mr. Stern.
Your interview of Oswald, on November 22, you put the notes in the wastebasket?
Mr. Hosty.
Right..
Mr. Stern.
Do you recall specifically what you did with the notes of your interviews of October 29, November 1, and November 5?
Mr. Hosty.
After I reduced them to writing, such as I did here, and I got the form back, I proofread it, then I threw them away.
Mr. Stern.
And you testified that the notes of your end of October early November interviews were transcribed after November 22, is that correct?
Mr. Hosty.
Right
Mr. Stern.
Were the notes destroyed after you transcribed those interviews, also after November 22?
Mr. Hosty.
Yes.
Mr. Stern.
Did you give any consideration to retaining the notes in view of the turn that the case had taken?
Mr. Hosty.
No.
Mr. Stern.
The intervening assassination?
Mr. Hosty.
No; because this is the record and the notes would not be as good as this record, because the notes are not written out fully as this is. It would just be abbreviations and things of that type.
Mr. Stern.
And you received no instructions about retaining notes?
Mr. Hosty.
No; we had no instructions. We were following the same rule we had always followed.
Mr. Stern.
Why don't you tell us now, turning to your memorandum of the November 22 interview of Lee Harvey Oswald, what transpired from the time you first entered Captain Fritz' office.
Mr. Hosty.
As this interview form will show, the interview commenced at 3:15 p.m. I am certain of that time because I checked my wristwatch, and Agent Bookhout checked my wristwatch. We both agreed on the time, 3:15. We came in and identified ourselves as agents of the FBI. I told Oswald my name and he reacted violently.
Mr. Stern.
How do you mean?
Mr. Hosty.
To both Agent Bookhout and myself. He adopted an extremely hostile attitude towards the FBI.
Mr. Stern.
Was it the FBI or the name Hosty?
Mr. Hosty.
Both. He reacted to the fact that we were FBI, and he made the remark to me, "Oh,. so you are Hosty. I've heard about you."
He then started to cuss at us, and so forth, and I tried to talk to him to calm him down. The more I talked to him the worse he got, so I just stopped talking to him, just sat back in the corner and pretty soon he stopped his ranting and raving.
Mr. Stern.
What was he saying? Please be specific.
Mr. Hosty.
Well, he said, "I am going to fix you FBI," and he made some derogatory remarks about the Director and about FBI agents in general. I don't specifically recall the exact wording he used.
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