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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IV - Page 415« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of John W. Fain)

Mr. Fain.
Let's see, that was on, it must have been, the morning of the 26th, June 26.
Mr. Stern.
How did you learn this information?
Mr. Fain.
They hadn't let me know, and I began to think it was time for checking on this thing.
Mr. Stern.
And by "they" you mean----
Mr. Fain.
Robert had not let me know, and Mrs. Oswald had not let me know, so I thought I had better make an independent check, and so I inquired of them, and she told me that he and his wife and child had arrived in Fort Worth on
June 14, and I asked her, "Why hadn't you let me know about it?" And she said, "Well, actually the whole family had been so harassed and that he just didn't feel like letting his face be shown outside of the house." In other words, he was afraid that the newspapers would come and harass him again, I guess.
Mr. Stern.
Were there newspaper stories about his arrival, do you recall?
Mr. Fain.
There were some that appeared in the paper which I have set out on page 8 and page 9. Yes; I refer to them on page 8 where they report his having gone to Russia.
Mr. Stern.
Had these come to your attention before June 26?
Mr. Fain.
Yes, sir; yes, sir. I kept up with these and was careful to clip them and put them in the file.
Mr. Stern.
So that is it true that you knew before June 26 that he had returned?
Mr. Fain.
No; I didn't know until that morning. I had no way of knowing that. There were some verifying communications which I set out on page 10 showing when he actually came in; page 10, you will notice, shows a check of records again back here showing when he actually left over there and when he arrived here. He arrived in New York City June 13 and then took a plane to Dallas, where he arrived on the 14th.
Mr. Stern.
Yes; I thought I had understood you to say that the newspapers reflected his arrival in Fort Worth.
Mr. Fain.
No; they were over there on pages 8 and 9. June 8, 1962, in the Fort Worth Star Telegram, daily newspaper of Fort Worth, there appeared a photograph of the subject, Lee Oswald, and the headline "Ex-Marine Reported On Way Back From Russia."
Mr. Stern.
But there was no news story actually reporting his arrival?
Mr. Fain.
No; he was staying in, apparently that was the reason, I guess he didn't want to get out because he was afraid he would be harassed by the neighbors or somebody and, at least, that is what Mrs. Oswald said. He just----
Mr. Stern.
The harassment by newspaper reporters you referred to, probably did not mean reporters at the time of his arrival in Fort Worth.
Mr. Fain.
Well, she was--I suppose she indicated or she said that he just hadn't gotten out of the house. In other words, he came in there on the 14th and apparently, according to her story, he didn't show his face outside that house.
Mr. Stern.
Then what did you do when you learned he had arrived?
Mr. Fain.
Well, I told her I would like to' talk to him, he was there, and I made arrangements for him to come to the office and he said he could make it by 1 o'clock. I requested B. Tom Cutter, my senior agent, to assist if he would me in interviewing Oswald, who came in about 10 minutes before 1. He came in the office like he said he would, and we talked to him on June 26, 1962.
Mr. Stern.
Before you interview any subject, Mr. Fain, do you have a practice of giving him any cautionary statement, any warning?
Mr. Fain.
It was always my policy, and 1 am sure I did in this case, to tell them this substantially, that, "You don't have to furnish us any information. Any information you furnish can be used against you in court, and you have a right to consult with an attorney before giving us any information or statements."
Mr. Stern.
Can you actually recall that you said this to Oswald?
Mr. Fain.
I don't recall specifically, but I know it was my religious practice to do it because we are always instructed to do that.
Mr. Stern.
Fine.
Was the interview with Mr. Oswald recorded mechanically in any way?
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