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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IV - Page 218« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of J. W. Fritz)

Mr. Fritz.
Well, I am sure that I did. Let me see.
Mr. Ball.
It shows he was fingerprinted at 8:55.
Mr. Fritz.
I probably talked to him a little bit more after that. was fingerprinted at what time?
Mr. Ball.
8:55. Or 9 o'clock, around 9 o'clock. Fingerprinted, at that time there was a paraffin test of the hands and face.
Mr. Fritz.
I don't believe he was fingerprinted. I think we made the paraffin test in my office.
Mr. Ball.
There was a paraffin test.
Mr. Fritz.
I allowed them to use my office right there to make a paraffin test.
Mr. Ball.
And your records show he was fingerprinted there, too.
Mr. Fritz.
It is possible, I didn't stay there with him. He could have. I don't think they fingerprinted him at that time. I wouldn't see any need for it.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever talk---you remember Wesley Frazier who came into the department and made a statement, do you, the boy who----
Mr. Fritz.
I think I remember some man, I believe that is his correct name, some man who came in with some story about seeing Oswald run from the building.
Mr. Ball.
No.
Mr. Fritz.
That is not the one?
Mr. Ball.
A boy who lived in Irving who drove Oswald weekends back and forth from Irving.
Mr. Fritz.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
You remember you talked to him that night and he told about a package that Oswald carried into the Texas School Book Depository Building that morning.
Mr. Fritz.
Yes, sir; that is right.
Mr. Ball.
Do you remember what that was?
Mr. Fritz.
He said he asked him what it was and he told him it was curtain rods.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever talk to Oswald about that?
Mr. Fritz.
Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. Ball.
When?
Mr. Fritz.
I talked to him about that on the last morning before his transfer.
Mr. Ball.
That was on Sunday morning?
Mr. Fritz.
Sunday morning, that would be the 24th, wouldn't it?
Mr. Ball.
Yes.
Mr. Fritz.
And I asked him about that and he denied having anything to do with any curtain rods. It is possible that I could have asked him that on one of those other times, too, but I know I asked him that question the last morning.
Mr. Ball.
Well, you learned about it on Friday night according to your reports here when Mr. Frazier came in and you gave Frazier a polygraph test.
Mr. Fritz.
I hesitated to ask him about those curtain rods and I will tell you why I hesitated, because I wanted to find out more about that package before I got started with the curtain rods because if there were curtain rods I didn't want to mention it to him but we couldn't find--I talked to his wife and asked her if they were going to use any curtain rods, while I was talking to her that afternoon and she didn't know anything about it.
No; I believe I talked to Mrs. Paine, one of them.
Mr. Ball.
Do you think you talked to Oswald before Sunday morning about curtain rods?
Mr. Fritz.
It is possible but I know I talked to him Sunday morning.
Mr. Ball.
Now, did you tell him what Frazier had told you?
Mr. Fritz.
I don't know that I told him what Frazier had told me but I told him someone had told me.
Mr. Ball.
What did you tell him?
Mr. Fritz.
I told him he had a package and put it in the back seat and it was a package about that long and it was curtain rods. He said he didn't have any kind of a package but his lunch. He said he had his lunch and that is all he had, and Mr. Frazier told me that he got out of the car with that package, he saw him go toward the building with this long package.
I asked him, I said, "Did you go toward the building carrying a long package?"
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