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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IV - Page 186« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Jesse Edward Curry)

Mr. Curry.
of them, channel 1 and channel 2 is in on them and they spent many hours going over these and copying these.
This would be available and I listened to our recording.
Mr. Rankin.
That is Exhibit 705 you are talking about?
Mr. Curry.
That is right.
Mr. Rankin.
So if there is a discrepancy between the two, are you satisfied that Exhibit 705 is correct?
Mr. Curry.
Is the correct exhibit; yes.
Mr. Rankin.
Commission Document No. 290 does say at the heading that most routine transmissions were left out for reasons of brevity. Would that be any explanation?
Mr. Curry.
Perhaps it could be, yes. Because these would have been routine broadcasts. The fact the squad was moving into this area because this is more or less normal procedure when we have incidents occurring of any magnitude, the squads immediately begin moving in to cover officers of the district.
Mr. Rankin.
You were going to tell us about how it came to your attention about the moving of Lee Oswald to the jail from your place on Saturday?
Mr. Curry.
To the county jail?
Mr. Rankin.
Yes.
Mr. Curry.
Yes, sir.
I asked Captain Fritz a time or two when he wanted to move Oswald, because this is left up to him. Whoever will be handling the case, I mean I don't enter in the transfer of prisoners, I don't ordinarily even know when they are going to be transferred.
Mr. Rankin.
Why is that?
Mr. Curry.
It is just a routine matter.
Mr. Rankin.
Can you tell us is that involved quite a few times in your operations?
Mr. Curry.
Yes, sir. Usually it is a daily transfer of prisoners, and usually the sheriff's office sends up there and picks them up on routine prisoners.
Mr. Rankin.
Are there a number each day?
Mr. Curry.
I would say perhaps anywhere from maybe none to 15 a day.
Mr. Rankin.
When did you talk to Officer or Captain Fritz about this?
Mr. Curry.
I think I talked to him some on Saturday, because the newspaper people or the news media kept asking me when are going to transfer him?
Mr. Rankin.
That would be November 23?
Mr. Curry.
Yes; and I said this I don't know because that would be left up to the men doing the interrogation. When they felt like they were finished with him and wanted to transfer him or when Sheriff Decker said, "We want the man."
Mr. Rankin.
Did you have anything to do with his transfer then?
Mr. Curry.
Other than to, I called Sheriff Decker on Sunday morning and he said, I told him and I think he had talked to Fritz prior to that time, too, and he told Fritz, he says, "Don't bring him down here until I get some security set up for him."
So, Sunday morning I talked to Sheriff Decker.
Mr. Rankin.
Why didn't you do it at night?
Mr. Curry.
This is not customary to transfer prisoners at night.
Mr. Rankin.
Why?
Mr. Curry.
Well, in talking with Captain Fritz, and here again the prisoner was his, and when some of my captains, I believe it was perhaps Lieutenant Swain, it is in the record somewhere said something about, "Do you think we ought to move him at night?"
And Captain Fritz was not in favor of moving him at night because he said, "If anything does occur you can't see, anybody can immediately get out of sight, and if anything is going, to happen we want to know where we can see and see what is happening."
Mr. Rankin.
Were you fearful something might happen?
Mr. Curry.
I didn't know. I thought it could happen because of a feeling of a great number of people. But I certainly didn't think anything to happen in city hall. I thought that if anything did happen to him it would probably be en route from the city jail to the county jail.
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