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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 17« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
It looked to me like someone trying to make an impression, and choosing the words he thought were best to make that impression, even including assumed name as a possible attempt to make an impression on someone who was able to do espionage, but not to my mind necessarily a picture of someone who was doing espionage, though I left that open as a possibility, and thought I'd give it to the FBI and let them conclude or add it to what they knew.
I regret, and I would like to put this on the record, particularly two things in my own actions prior to the time of the assassination.
One, that I didn't make the connection between this phone number that I had of where he lived and that of course this would produce for the FBI agent who was asking the address of where he lived.
Mr. Jenner.
I will get to that, Mrs. Paine.
Mrs. Paine.
Well, that is regret 1.
Mr. Jenner.
I don't want to cover too many subjects at the moment.
Mrs. Paine.
But then of course you see in light of the events that followed it is a pity that I didn't go directly instead of waiting for the next visit, because the next visit was the 23d of November.
Mr. Jenner.
Now I am going to get to that. What did you do with your copy of the letter?
Mrs. Paine.
I put my copy of the letter away in an envelope in my desk. I then, Sunday evening, also took the original I decided to do that Sunday evening.
Mr. Jenner.
He had left?
Mrs. Paine.
No, he had not left.
Mr. Jenner.
He had not left?
Mrs. Paine.
I asked the gentlemen present, it included Michael, to come in and help me move the furniture around. I walked in and saw the letter was still there and plunked it into my desk. We then moved all the furniture. I then took it out of the desk and placed it.
Mr. Jenner.
When did you take it out of the desk?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't think he knew that I took it. Oh, that evening or the next morning, I don't recall.
Mr. Jenner.
And this was the 10th of November?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever have any conversation with him about that?
Mrs. Paine.
No. I came close to it. I was disturbed about it. I didn't go to sleep right away. He was sitting up watching the late spy story, if you will, on the TV, and I got up and sat there on the sofa with him saying, "I can't speak," wanting to confront him with this and say, "What is this?" But on the other hand I was somewhat fearful, and I didn't know what to do.
Representative Ford.
Fearful in what way?
Mrs. Paine.
Well, if he was an agent, I would rather just give it to the FBI, not to say "Look, I am watching you" by saying "What is this I find on my desk."
Mr. Jenner.
Were you fearful of any physical harm?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I was not.
Representative Ford.
That is what I was concerned about.
Mrs. Paine.
No; I was not, though I don't think I defined my fears. I sat down and said I couldn't sleep and he said, "I guess you are real upset about going to the lawyer tomorrow."
He knew I had an appointment with my lawyer to discuss the possibility of a divorce the next day, and that didn't happen to be what was keeping me up that night, but I was indeed upset about the idea, and it was thoughtful for him to think of it. But I let it rest there, and we watched the story which he was interested in watching. And then I excused myself and went to bed.
Mr. Jenner.
What did you do ultimately with your draft of the letter and the original?
Mrs. Paine.
The first appearance of an FBI person on the 23d of November, I gave the original to them. The next day it probably was I said I also had a copy and gave them that. I wanted to be shut of it.
Mr. Jenner.
So I take it, Mrs. Paine, you did not deliver either the original
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