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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 160« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Harold J. Fleming)

Mr. Hubert.
Under the provisions of Executive Order 11130 dated November 29, 1963, and the joint resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the President's Commission in conformance with that Executive order and the joint resolution, I have been authorized to take a sworn deposition from you.
I state to you now that the general nature of the Commission's inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate and report upon the facts relevant to the assassination of President Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
In particular as to you, Mr. Fleming, the nature of the inquiry today is to determine what facts you know about the death of Oswald, and any other pertinent facts you may know about the general inquiry.
Now, Mr. Fleming, you appear today by virtue of a letter request made to you by Mr. J. Lee Rankin, general counsel of the staff of the President's Commission, which I understand you received as late as last Friday? Mr. FLEMING. July 10.
Mr. Hubert.
I ask you if you would take the oath, please?
Mr. Flemming.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give in this matter will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. Fleming.
I do.
Mr. Hubert.
Will you state your full name, please, sir?
Mr. Fleming.
Harold J. Fleming.
Mr. Hubert.
Where do you reside?
Mr. Fleming.
10611 Lennox Lane in Dallas.
Mr. Hubert.
What is your occupation, sir?
Mr. Fleming.
I am a corporate counsel and general operations manager of Armored Motor Service, Inc.
Mr. Hubert.
Where is that company located?
Mr. Fleming.
Home offices are in Fort Worth, Tex.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you have a branch of that operation in the city of Dallas?
Mr. Fleming.
Yes; we do.
Mr. Hubert.
What is your connection with the Dallas operation?
Mr. Fleming.
I am general operations manager for the company, and the Dallas office is one of our branches. By virtue of my position, I have worked on operational problem and legal problem arising in the Dallas city branch.
Mr. Hubert.
You are a lawyer?
Mr. Fleming.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Would you state for the record, please, sir, the occupation of Harold Fleming and Don Goin and Edward Dietrich?
Mr. Fleming.
Did you say Harold Fleming?
Mr. Hubert.
Bert Hall. I think his name is Marvin Hall.
Mr. Fleming.
Yes; Marvin E. Hall is vice president and branch manager for our Dallas branch of Armored Motor Service, Inc. Both Coin and Ed Dietrich are employees classified as guards or drivers. Mr. Don Coin also has a title of assistant vault manager.
Mr. Hubert.
I take it that all three of these gentlemen work under your authority?
Mr. Fleming.
In a broad sense, yes. However, just for the record, the city branches are to a very large extent autonomous.
Mr. Hubert.
Well then, who was in charge actually of the Dallas city branch here on November the 24th?
Mr. Fleming.
Mr. Hall is in charge of the Dallas city branch as such when it functions in that capacity. This particular thing was a rather unusual situation.
Mr. Hubert.
Now Mr. Fleming, I think I have heretofore shown you a document which purports to be a report of an interview of you on June 26, 1964, by FBI Agent W. James Wood, which I have marked for the purpose of identification on the first page as follows, to wit: On the right-hand margin "Dallas, Texas, July 13, 1964, Exhibit No. 1, Deposition of Harold Fleming," under which I have signed my name. The document actually consists of five pages, and on the succeeding second, third, fourth, and fifth pages I have placed my initials on the lower right-hand corner, and also the fifth page only
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