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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 130« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Jesse E. Curry)

Mr. Hubert.
Chief CURRY. Except that he was placed in a cell alone, and in many cases we are not able to do this for every prisoner.
Mr. Hubert.
For the record, what is the official name of the police part of the building there? Is it called the city jail building?
Chief CURRY. The police and courts building.
Mr. Hubert.
The police and courts building?
Chief CURRY. Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And the other building that is adjacent to it?
Chief CURRY. It is referred to as the city hall or municipal building.
Mr. Hubert.
Municipal building?
Chief CURRY. Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Actually, they join together by a hallway?
Chief CURRY. Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
That parking area is under the municipal building, whereas the ramp is under the police building?
Chief CURRY. Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Under the municipal building also?
Chief CURRY. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
In any case, the way these buildings are, one is the municipal building and the other is the police department building?
Chief CURRY. They refer to one as the municipal building and the other as the police and courts building. Sometimes both are referred to as "city hall."
Mr. Hubert.
Police and courts building. Let me go off the record for a moment.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Hubert.
Chief, while we were off the record, I spoke to you about the police department records concerning the log made of the time when Oswald was taken from the custody of the jail personnel in your department to, say, Captain Fritz' office or somewhere else, and as I understand it, a log is kept to record the transfers in custody of prisoners, is that correct, sir?
And if a prisoner is turned over to another branch of the police department, a document called a Tempo is issued which shows the time of release, to whom released, and the time returned?
Chief CURRY. This is the procedure where the prisoner, generally speaking, leaves the security of the jail area. A Tempo is made. As long as he is in the custody of the jailers, perhaps for a visitor or for perhaps into the identification bureau, which is a part of the jail, there would be no Tempo made.
But when he leaves the jail in the custody of some other bureau, this Tempo is made.
Mr. Hubert.
Let me ask you this then. Would a Tempo be made if he had a visit with, say, his wife, his mother, or his brother?
Chief CURRY. No; but there should be a visitor's record made of this.
Mr. Hubert.
However, under those circumstances as you have described, he would still be in the custody of the jailer, and therefore there would be no occasion to have a Tempo?
Chief CURRY. Right.
Mr. Hubert.
Would that be true also when the identification bureau people took fingernail scrapings and hair specimens?
Chief CURRY. True. It would not be necessary to get a Tempo.
Mr. Hubert.
He would still be in the custody of the jail people and no Tempo would be necessary?
Chief CURRY. Right.
Mr. Hubert.
Also if Oswald made any telephone calls, would there be occasion for a Tempo on that?
Chief CURRY. No.
Mr. Hubert.
That is because the phone is in the jail area and no necessity for a Tempo?
Chief CURRY. That's right. On his arrest card there would be a record kept of any phone calls that were made. It would be entered on the card, the fact that he did go in to use the phone, and it usually shows on the card whether or not contact was made.
Mr. Hubert.
That card would also show any visits?
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