Mrs. Grant.

marriage ring and she looked cute and he thought she might like to see a little night life he would let her pass--he would look at her license number and copy the number and find out in the city hall where to send her--her name and address and the telephone a complimentary card to come to the Vegas Club---he as a host.
Now, I told this to Payton and the other people and he would send these people cards because girls would come to the club and ask me, "Where is Mr. Ruby?" And I would say, "He's not here." And they said, "Well, he sent me this complimentary card." Once I said something to him about it and he said "Oh, I sent this to a girl," and I never thought anything about it. Finally, when he was arrested and I knew they found a lot of numbers, I said to him, "What are these numbers for?" And he said, "You know they are license plate numbers."

Mr. Hubert.

I see your point--it might be better if we gave her the whole list.

Mrs. Grant.

I'm not going to steal it.

Mr. Hubert.

I can't give you this list but I can get these names run off.

Mr. Burleson.

Suppose we do it that way and it may be that in time she can reflect better.

Mr. Hubert.

Suppose we do .it that way, then, and instead of doing it the way we have agreed, I will supply you with a list of all of these names and ask that you look at all of them and possibly you will see some that you have overlooked?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right--there may be one or two that I have overlooked.

Mr. Hubert.

And I will ask you, then, to give us an affidavit as to the significancy of any of these.

Mrs. Grant.

I will be happy to.

Mr. Hubert.

I would ask that you give us the affidavit only upon your own knowledge.

Mr. Burleson.

Not as to what she has heard?

Mr. Hubert.

Well, if she indicates it is what she knows from her own knowledge as apart from what she has heard.

Mrs. Grant.

These are mostly strippers and waitresses that I know or have known, or comedians. Listen, what happened to the two boxes of names and addresses that they took out?

Mr. Hubert.

I don't know, ma'am. It may well be that these are they.

Mrs. Grant.

That isn't enough.

Mr. Hubert.

Off the record.
(Discussion between counsel and the witness as to the names shown on the list heretofore referred to.)

Mr. Burleson.

May I ask you--do you want this in one single affidavit, paragraph by paragraph?

Mr. Hubert.

I don't think so. I think that the affidavit could be in the usual form.

Mr. Burleson.

What I am asking is, do you want a single affidavit as to each one of the names here?

Mr. Hubert.

I think not, I think the usual affidavit form---one that says that--having been handed a list and so forth, that she has the following comment to make on each and then in numerical sequence, and as to the rest of them there is no significance.

Mr. Burleson.

And one notary signature will be sufficient?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Burleson.

And then there will be just one instrument?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mrs. Grant.

I do want to say this: Do you know Jack in his early teens and in the early thirties--he and these bad boys he later on disassociated himself with, they were people in the neighborhood--broke up Bund meetings in Chicago--do you know Chicago at all?

Mr. Hubert.

No.

Mr. Burleson.

For the record, I have no other questions to ask.

Mr. Hubert.

I haven't either. Thank you very much.

Mrs. Grant.

All right.

Sam Ruby