Mrs. Rich.

French Quarter, on St. Philip's Street. And then 1713 Calhoun. That is where my husband died. And various other places which I cannot remember, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What did your husband do for a living while you were in New Orleans?

Mrs. Rich.

The last time he had the best position I have ever seen him hold. He was working for a construction company.

Mr. Hubert.

Which one?

Mrs. Rich.

Oh, dear. Dickie Bennett, Mr. McHane, those were two of his bosses--Mr. White.

Mr. Hubert.

What construction was he working on?

Mrs. Rich.

Well, he was a mechanic for the heavy equipment. He was just getting a raise and everything when this happened.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know the location where he was working?

Mrs. Rich.

Yes, out in Jeff Parish.

Mr. Hubert.

Was the building going up there?

Mrs. Rich.

No, they had this contract for the phone company. They would lay all their roads, and the poles and stuff, and various things. He would go out on jobs. I got him the job through Dickie Bennett.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not work at that time?

Mrs. Rich.

I----

Mr. Hubert.

I mean the time you were in New Orleans.

Mrs. Rich.

I would rather not answer that.

Mr. Griffin.

This----

Mrs. Rich.

I will answer to this extent. For one thing, I dealt black jack.

Mr. Griffin.

Mrs. Rich, you mentioned the name of a man by the name of Brawner. Now, did Mr. Brawner ever attend any of these meetings with the colonel?

Mrs. Rich.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

So his only knowledge of this would be what your husband might have told him.

Mrs. Rich.

That is correct.

Mr. Griffin.

What does Mr. Brawner do for a living?

Mrs. Rich.

I don't know what Eddie does--odd jobs.

Mr. Hubert.

How old a man is he?

Mrs. Rich.

Middle age---40, maybe. Does a lot of work with kids in these go carts--soap box derbies and stuff. I guess they used to be in the carnival together. As I say, everything I say, I don't know how much truth there is in it from what my husband told me.

Mr. Griffin.

Where does Mr. Brawner live?

Mrs. Rich.

Grand Prairie.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know where in Grand Prairie?

Mrs. Rich.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Is he married?

Mrs. Rich.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Does he have a family?

Mrs. Rich.

Yes; he does. I believe his wife's name is Mary.

Mr. Griffin.

How many children does he have?

Mrs. Rich.

I don't remember---quite a few---three or four.
I would like one thing known. Until the time I met my husband and since he died I have done nothing that I would be ashamed of, nothing I would not do in public. Now that I am married to Mr. Rich I do not want any recriminations due to the fact of the period of time I was married to my husband. My husband--the first year and a half of our marriage was beautiful. Then my husband turned me out. Don't ask me why I didn't leave him. Everyone else asked me that. It is not easy being something that is against everything that you believe in or stand for 2 years. There were periods--I told the FBI this, and I might as well state it right here. I was a prostitute call it what you may--call girl, madam. It still boils down to the same damn thing. When I worked, he worked. When I quit, he quit.

Mr. Hubert.

You are talking about Robert Perrin?

Mrs. Rich.

I am talking about Robert Perrin.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you marry Mr. Perrin?