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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 233« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Napoleon J. Daniels)

Mr. Hubert.
Now, Mr. Daniels, I would like you to read these three documents with this in mind, that after you have had a chance to read them calmly and quietly, take all the time you want, I would like you to look at them and be able to com-meat upon them.

For instance, I am going to ask you if they are correct, or what is wrong about them, and I want to try to reconcile them, and see if we can get at what are really the facts as you recollect the facts today. We are not interested in any positions of mind or concepts that you don't really have, but that other people might have driven you to, with good motive or not, what we want now is--forgetting about whatever anybody else told you, what your recollection is right now--today, without reference to anything else, if you can possibly do it.
Keep that in mind--forget about suggestions made to you in all good faith by other people, and just cut that out of your mind and let's just do that-- that scene as you saw it, and these words today.
Mr. Daniels.
All right.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, I am going to give you some time to look at it.
Mr. Daniels.
[Examining instruments referred to.]
Mr. Hubert.
Now, Mr. Daniels, you have had an opportunity to read the exhibits that I have marked Exhibits Nos. 5325, 5326, and 5327. Now, have you any comment to make with respect to the three exhibits and the statements made by you in them?
Mr. Daniels.
They said three people was in the car--it seems like I saw four--all of them had on these white supervisor caps, leather top hats that the supervisors wear down there and it Just seemed like I saw four.
Mr. Hubert.
All right, what you are saying in effect now is that the people who reported in these exhibits that you said you saw three were wrong, or that you were wrong in telling them three, because your present recollection is that there were four?
Mr. Daniels.
I think it was four.
Mr. Hubert.
Are there any other corrections that you wish to make?
Mr. Daniels.
Let's see, I don't remember.
Mr. Hubert.
Any others?
Mr. Daniels.
I don't remember--corrections.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, it is my duty to call your attention to Exhibit 5825, which is the affidavit that you made on November 29.
Mr. Daniels.
November 29? What I said?
Mr. Hubert.
And in Exhibit 5327, which is the report of an interview by the agents of the FBI on December 18, you seem to quite clearly state that the man you saw walk down the ramp past Vaughn, did so after the car had passed ?
Mr. Daniels.
Well, I said I think I have changed my mind now--I believe it was after the car had gone out when I saw him.
Mr. Hubert.
Let me get it straight--what is your present impression now?
Mr. Daniels.
That's it--the way I fix it in my mind--the way I arrive at that conclusion is that when the shot rang out, my first thought was the guy that just walked down in there did that, so timing that way it would have to be after that car came out, because that car had time to go quite a ways, I think.
Mr. Hubert.
What you are saying then is that the statements that are contained in Exhibits 5325 and 5327 you now believe to be correct?
Mr. Daniels.
Right.
Mr. Hubert.
And the statement you made in your deposition earlier today that you could not be sure whether that man went in before or after was incorrect? I think you even went further, if my memory serves me right, and said that your best recollection was that the man had gone down past Vaughn before the car came Out, isn't that what you said earlier in your deposition?
Mr. Daniels.
Yes; until I refreshed myself on it and when I read that I got a better picture in my mind.
Mr. Hubert.
So that now your testimony is that you think that the man you saw go by--past Vaughn, did so after the car had gone out, that is to say, after Vaughn had left his position at (2), gone out into the street to the approximate position of (4) and come back again to his position at (2)?
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