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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. X - Page 312« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Clifton M. Shasteen)

Mr. Shasteen.
chair cut his hair. It was on Friday night and it was about 5 or 10 minutes to 7, the best I remember. Now, why I am saying this is the fact that I was going to a football game. My shop has a door in the back and then there is a storage room on one side and a restroom on the other, but when you open the two doors, you see, there is just a narrow place and it kind of makes it private back there, and I change clothes back there, and I had the door but, as he came in the front door, I started out--I went out the back. The next morning this boy that works in the middle chair--he didn't go to the football game, but the boy that works there, and I slipped off and went to the football game---business had kind of slowed up about that time. But anyhow, he really was inquisitive as to where I went. He wanted to know where I was going and what I was going to do--he asked this guy cutting his hair. I You see, he didn't think nothing about it then. He just thought maybe he wanted me to cut his hair and that is the only time there.
Of course, there is some other things that happened but I could kick my own self for. There was a 14-year-old boy come in with him a few times, and---not every time, but I know he has been in there as much as two or three times with him, but he never did say nothing until about 3 or 4 days before this incident happened. This kid was in the shop----
Mr. Jenner.
Three or four days before November 22?
Mr. Shasteen.
Right. This boy was in the shop and the boy in the front chair was cutting his hair, and you know how men are talking, and there is this old saying, "If you haven't heard this .you haven't been around barbershops." The guys are always talking about we spend too much money overseas and we give away this and we give away that and you know, just the general consumption of the whole country and how everything is going. They talk that in the barbershop and you hear it Until you want to run.
Mr. Jenner.
That's right, they solve all the problems of the world.
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; but anyhow, there was several guys in there and they were talking one evening and this kid was in there, and the best I remember, it must have been--well, some of the guys that were in there work the night shift, and I think they go to work around 3:30 or 4 o'clock, so, I know it was around 3 or 2:30, or 3.
Mr. Jenner.
In the afternoon?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; and this kid was in here.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you there?
Mr. Shasteen.
Yes; what I am saying is--after they were doing all this talking and the kid hadn't opened his mouth and the fellow on the front chair was cutting his hair and he is a quiet guy and he never says nothing about politics in no shape, form, or fashion. However, I. try to keep all of us barbers out of politics because it isn't good business when you get politics in there you get out of the barber business and .all this talk was going on and I could tell he was listening and directly. he said, "I can tell you when you will stop all of this greed and everything."
And I said, "What do you mean, son?" And, he said, "Well, when you have one leader over everyone else." And, he said, leader-- he didn't just say country. I remember that--how he said it. And, I said, "What do you mean 'one leader' "? And he said, Well, when you don't have a leader in every little old country and them trying to scramble with one another" and he said, "Another thing, like you--you own the shop and these other fellows work for you and you get part of their money and he said when everybody has a say, when one man is not allowed to hog up the whole country and let another man starve," he says "that's when we are going to quit having wars and all this junk." And I said, "Where in the world did you get that kind of stuff?"
He never did answer me, but it made me so--if I knew then what, I know now, I would probably have took him and bought him a steak to try to quiz him and find out who it was and where he got all of that. Instead, it made me mad, just to be honest about it--I would like to have took one of them razor straps and tore him up. If he had been a 14-year-old boy of mine that said a thing like that he would have got it, but he got up and left the shop and I haven;t heard him. since, and I didn't find out where he lived, who he was or nothing. The anger in him saying that is where I did it, and I--the guy that talks like
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